I'll keep this pretty short.  Its been an up and down year for the Dubs, who have definitely lacked consistency, and not met preseason expectations that many fans had.  After the David Lee trade many on this site were stoked on the team.  A lot of people were saying we were a sure fire playoff team, and I got more heat for saying that I still didn't think the Dubs would make the playoffs then other posters who made predictions of the Dubs being a fifth seed or higher.  I wish I could go back and find the conversations that took place, but I remember Missing Barry and some of the other people on this site who are really into statistics, throwing all kinds of stats at me to show that I was wrong and that the Warriors were going to be somewhere around a 50 win team.  First of all I want to use this opportunity to show that stats like Win Shares can be very flawed, and even when some of the GSoM's most intelligent posters (I'm looking at you MB) believe the story the stats are saying, it doesn't necessarily mean that the stats are correct.  I want to point this out because I feel like some people on this site take stats for gospel, and rip apart anyone who disagrees with the story that the stats lay out for us.  Yes, there are people who err in the opposite direction also, making unfounded claims, totally disregarding any numbers, but I don't think that either one is better than the other.  Why were the stats so far off in predicting the success of our team?  We have been one of the healthiest teams in the league this year...  Are stats taken too seriously on this site?  Just because some stats don't like Kobe B, does that not mean that there are not intangibles that he brings that the stats aren't measuring?  (It might not be the best idea to use Kobe as an example because I know that that will trigger big responses in people, but he is a good example)  What do ya'll think?

So from a link on the GSoM site I ended up perusing the NJ Nets SB Nation fan site.  One thing that I found was this article:

http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/8/19/1631587/price-for-melo

Now, I don't know the Nets or their players that well, but much of what I found on their site and in this article in particular just seemed crazy to me.  Absolutely nuts!  Like I couldn't wrap my head around it.  The comments more than the actual post. 

People were saying that they wouldn't trade Lopez and Favors for Melo, or even Lopez for Melo straight up!  Now maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about, but my first reaction to this was,  "WTF are Nets fans thinking!  They won't trade a above average center and a totally unproven rookie with potential for a guy who is probably a top 15 player in the league."

It seems to me that this must be blatant homerism, but Nets fans are sticking to their belief that Melo is not worth Lopez.  What do y'all think?

This also made me wonder in what ways the general public here at GSoM are consumed by homerism giving us an unrealistic view of a player, or multiple players, without us even realizing it.  Any thoughts on this topic?  I actually think that Randolph and Buike were two of the main players that we probably valued much more than their actual value you was.  Probably Turiaf and Beans before this past year possibly too.  I think there must be a lot of homerism here because if our players were really as good as we act like they are, we would be a much better team than we have been...

      Ok, so this has been annoying me for a long time, and it gets brought up so often that I figured I might as well make a post about it.  I've stated my opinion about this a number of times in the comments of other posts, but there has not been much debate or thought put into the subject that I have seen.  Here is the statement that I see as false, or more accurately a gross simplification, "Oklahoma City has done it right.  They have drafted unselfish young players with integrity and character.  They put together pieces that work in genius moves by the front office."

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Some teams get lucky in the lottery.  As of today the Warriors down 10 in net gain/loss of draft picks from the lottery.  Its depressing.  The lineup we all envisioned of our young players plus Wall, Turner, or one of the top two big men is out the window.  I can't help but feel cheated, especially after finding out the the Dubs have moved down a total of 10 draft slots overall, in the history of the draft.
x0!!!!!

Anyway, I'm trying to keep a little bit of hope.  It is true that we are one slot higher than last year, where we picked up Curry.  Johnson might still be available at 6, but maybe not.  It doesn't seem like this is an extremely deep draft class from what I've heard, but you never really know.  The draft is such a mystery its hard to know anything for sure.

Another random thought:  I keep thinking about the Thunder and how everyone is so impressed by how they constructed their young team.  But over the past few years they certainly haven't been in the minus as far as moving up or down in the lottery.  Its easy to praise them, but they got the second pick in a draft, the third pick, the forth, and the fifth, in a span of three years.  It just frustrates me that a team like them can get lucky, while we get unlucky.  Are the Thunder good because of their management that very skillfully contructed their team, or because they lucked into Durant.  Got a high pick in a deep draft to get Westbrook, and got a high pick in another draft to get Harden.  They do have some other late first round picks that turned out well, but they aren't the core of the team.  My point is that is the Warriors had been lucky enough to get the second pick a few years ago, we would be the up and coming team, not them.  When will we finally start getting some luck on our side!?

Hey Lakers fans,

I'm posting in hostile territory here.  I am a Warriors fan from the bay area.  Unfortunately there is a lot of Kobe hating outside of LA and it makes it hard to really know how good Kobe is.  People over at Goldenstateofmind.com have been posting blogs of the top 10 players in the NBA that leave Kobe off the list.  I personally think that this is ridiculous since only a couple years ago Kobe and Lebron were the unanimus top choices for MVP.  I haven't seen much of Kobe this year, but I can't imagine that his play has gone downhill too terribly much. 

I'm looking for the opinions of Lakers fans.  Try not to let your homerism [we all have it :)  ] get in the way of a clearly articulated opinion of Kobe!!!  Why is Kobe good?  Is he a top ten player in the league?  Is he the best player on the Lakers, or is Pau better?  Why? 

Over on the Warriors site people say that Kobe shoots for an average efficiency and Pau shoots the ball much better.  Is Pau better?  If you were starting an NBA franchise for one year and you could choose Pau or Kobe to have on your team, which would you want and why?

Thanks everyone!  Enjoy your playoff success because (as demonstrated by the Warriors) you never know how long it will last!

So I don't know what to think about stats.  I've heard the saying, "you can use facts to prove anything you want."  And I agree with it to a certain extent.  I do think stats can have some value, but can also be overused, and misleading.  After watching the Suns and the Lakers in the playoffs, it seems to me (although I'll admit that I have only watched a playoff game here and there) that two of the main targets on this site have been Amare and Kobe.  People argue that when they are named to the all nba first team, (or second or third) that people are overrating them because of their high scoring averages.  I understand this and see how it could be true.  And I'm not sure that Amare and Kobe aren't overrated.

What I do know, it that I disagree with some about the amount that these players are overrated.  Many on this site don't want Amare because he doesn't play defense.  Many people on this site don't think Kobe is a top ten player in the league, and people don't think he is the top player on his team.  I do think Kobe is a little bit overrate (although I think that is mainly because of a slight decline in his play this year) and Amare is overrated a bit too, because he doesn't play good defense, and isn't an amazing rebounder, but watching these guys in the playoffs makes me more sure of my instinct that these players are still elite.  Especially Kobe, is still so clutch and does so much for his team, on defense and offense.  I don't have numbers to back up what I'm saying, which is part of the point I'm trying to make.

Humans are prone to making faulty assessments of situations, which is why stats are used.  They can help you assess a player in a different way than you can by simply watching the game.  Do stats tell a more accurate story?  That is a tough question.  I think that stats help complete the story, but when I watch players like Kobe and Amare in the playoffs, I feel confident in saying that they are very talented, and very good players, who contribute significantly to their team's success.

       I keep seeing the comparisons between Curry and Nash.  I can see where they come from, because they're both point guards, they're both scoring point guards, and it seems that Curry might eventually be able to consistently pass at a Nash-like level.  Both can shoot for good % too.  I don't think this is a bad comparison, but are there any other Curry comparisons that anyone has thought of.

    Ever since he was in college Curry has always reminded me of Reggie Miller.  This might be in part because they have a somewhat similar skin color and hair cut, but there is more to it then that.  It seems like Nash has never been known as a pure shooter the way the Miller was.  Curry reminds me of the lights out shooting ability of Miller.  Also they way that Curry plays under control and everything seems really natural, reminds me of Miller.  I didn't see Miller play much until the last few years of his career, but he was always a player I loved to watch and seemed like a good guy and someone that any team would love to have so I hope Curry will continue to remind me of Miller throughout his career.

Any other comparisons that anyone wants to share?  This is just for fun, there doesn't need to be a lot of analysis or even a reason necessarily, who does Curry remind you of?

Okay, so I feel a need to write about my view on Monta.  It seems that a lot of people are really down on Monta, especially since Curry's recent hot streak.  People are saying we should trade him.  Some are saying that he is taking to many shots. Some are saying that he is selfish.  And many are saying that he is not that good because despite his numbers the Dubs are still losing.  I agree with people is they are saying that this shows Monta is not the same caliber player as a Bryant, Gasol, Duncan, Garnett, or even a Johnson (even though its hard to tell because of their supporting casts), but I don't agree with people who are putting blame on Monta.

First of all people need to take context into account.  Lebron is good no matter what team he is on.  Kobe, when he is not surrounded by good players, is a bottom seed playoff team at best.  If Dirk replaced Monta the Warriors would be a borderline playoff team.  My point is that their are very few players who can make a team win by themself.

Lets look at the Dubs.  I hear lots of people saying how good Beans is.  I think this is a joke.  He is a good rebounder and an efficient scorer when he takes only a few shots a game.  He has never had to handle being one of the main offensive weapons on a team, where the defense focuses on him.  He is good at running a pick a roll, and does have good hands, but has very limited offensive capabilities and is at his best when asked to be an occasional offensive threat, rebound, and play defense.  Plus, another thing people haven't been taking into account when saying that Monta does have good players to play with, IS THAT BEANS HAS BEEN INJURED MUCH OF THE YEAR!!!  For those of you who are ignoring this fact, any positives that Beans might bring, are not there when he is injured!!!!!

One of the other players people have been saying are part of Monta's "great supporting cast" is Morrow.  First off, he has also been injured a lot.  And, even when healthy he has been very up and down this year.  His 3-point % is still very good and what he adds in that dimension is usually great, but even before he was injured Nellie wasn't playing him much for a while because he wasn't playing that well.  At his best Morrow is a good role player and could be valuable to nearly every team.  He is good, and is going to have a good NBA career, but he is not a legitimate second option.  He is a role player.  He could be a very good role player like Bruce Bowen, who adds a lot to a team, but that is still not that amazing.

Curry has been really good over the last month, but before that he was inconsistent.  Curry is a rookie, do not forget, and I'm sure as the year goes on he will be incorporated more and more into the offense.  Monta should defer to him more as the season progresses, I agree with that sentiment.

Those are three of the main players I keep seeing come up in comments on this site, and although they are decent and I don't mean to complain about them, they've been injured and aren't legitimate consistent second options.

Ok, so I didn't mean to be spending so much time talking about those players BUT IT HAS REALLY FRUSTRATED ME TO SEE PEOPLE ACTING LIKE THOSE THREE ARE GREAT!!!!  AND THATS THE BEST HELP MONTA HAS HAD BESIDES MAGETTE!

So moving on.  When I watch the Dubs, it doesn't seem to me like Monta is a ball hog like people are saying.  He takes a lot of shots, but he also plays a lot of minutes.  He shoots at a decent percentage and other players on the Dubs often have trouble scoring.  Curry has been good lately and Mags has been pretty good, but are either of those players more legitamate of a first option then Monta?  I would say no.  Curry could be in the future, but not now, even though he did have a great game against the Clippers.  I also think its no coincidence that all this hatred of Monta has come out right after he got injured and Curry had a triple double (which was sooooooo fun!!!!!). 

So most of the season Monta has had random D-Leaguers, Mags (who has been good), Curry (whose been good lately), and Morrow a good amount of time,  CJ, maybe another player, and thats pretty much it unless I'm forgetting anyone...  THIS IS IMPORTANT!  You can't just disregard this information and blame Monta for the team losing and say that he is doing a horrible job and should take less shots.  His team is BAD, and I mean real BAAAAAADDDDD!  If they weren't injured he would have players to defer to, even though even when not injured the Dubs wouldn't be tremendously better. 

I really think people aren't taking context into account, which is normal for Americans to do, coming from such an individualistic culture.  But context does matter.  There is a reason why most people who are born poor stay poor (and its not because they're lazy!)  and there is a reason why the rich often stay rich (and its not because they are smart!) and there is a reason why a player can still be good and be on a bad team!  Was Kobe bad a few years ago, when the Lakers were a borderline playoff team?!?!?!  Did he suddenly get better, or did his surrounding players get better!?!?  He got an MVP award because his team started doing well, but his team started doing well because he got better players to play with, not because he got better.

I think Monta is good.  We shouldn't trade him.  Once we get better players who Monta can let take more off of his shoulders, he will be fine with that and fit in well.  People keep saying that he doesn't want to do that and will have a problem doing that. Why!?!?  I have no reason to think that he would have a problem with that.  He has done it before and he will do it again. Nellie is in charge of the game plan.  IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHAT THE DUBS ARE DOING BLAME HIM NOT MONTA.  I don't personally see how much Monta has the ball as bad, but even if you do see it as bad its not Monta's fault.  Its the fault of the coach and the injured/bad/d-league-filled supporting cast/

I appreciate what he has done so far this season, playing so many minutes and taking so much of the burden.  I haven't thought he was being selfish at all, but he was just acting like the best player on the team, which he is!!!!  I really like him as a player and I'm tired of everyone disrespecting him. 
I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on what they think about Monta, if they want to keep him, trade him, make him take less shots, like what he is doing, or whatever else.

My reaction to the new of Claxton was probably similar to how most people reacted.  I was confused, and I was angry at the Warriors for making another move that didn't make any sense.

Then I thought to myself, "Why would the Warriors do this?"  And the only answer that I could think of is that the Dubs knew that a trade before the trade deadline is not going to happen.  I don't know if I can really trust that the team knew that for sure.  What if a team put an offer on the table in a few days that hadn't been offered before?  Well, I don't know how NBA GMs work, but I'm guessing that it wasn't likely that there were going to be any new offers.  Can anyone even think of a possible trade that would make sense for the Dubs to make that is realistic?  We're not going to get Bosh or Boozer, unless we give up Randolph or Curry, or maybe both.  Almost every trade proposal on this site has been shot down for either being unrealistic or not a good trade.  I doubt a trade was going to be possible, and even though the Warriors FO has not have a good track record, I actually trust that they know what they are doing with this move (I know.  I can't believe I'm saying it either, but I really think its true.)

Now, maybe I'm reading too far into this, but I'm glad the Warriors aren't making any trades and I think its a good sign for the future.  It seems like its a sign the the Dubs aren't going to try to overhaul the team every few years (like they've done in the past) in order to try to make the team good.  It seems like the Warriors are trying to build the team from the ground up, which I feel good about.  Ellis, and Curry are solid, although I'm not sure how far they could take a team playing together.  We still have young potential at power forward, and some other solid players.  Add a top draft pick (we very well might finish with the second worst record in the league) and things aren't looking too bad.  Curry is going to be good, Ellis is already really good and still seems to be getting better.  As long as the team can get healthy, I like what we have. 

Obviously, the Thunder (who just beat us tonight, so they are fresh in my mind) are the epitome of a team that was built well through the draft.  The Warriors haven't had nearly as many high draft picks as the Thunder so it may take us a while to build a team thats as good as the Thunder, but I think trying to build a team that way is a better idea then trying to make drastic changes through trades.  I know we can't count on this, but if we got Wall, and could trade either Curry or Ellis for a good player, our team would be immediately legitimate.  If we don't get Wall, it still seems to me that we are building a solid young team.

I know everyone is angry at the team for bad management and everyone want to win now, but I think the best thing we can do is be patient.  If you are pissed off at the team losing go ahead and boycott the team and do whatever you want to make yourself feel better, but there is no quick solution to our team's situation.  Patiently developing young players is the best chance we have at having a good team.

Monta Ellis has been incredible this season.  If he was in the East he would probably be an allstar, and if Tracy McGrady wasn't voted into the West's team by dumb@$$ fans, either Ellis or Billups would probably be on that team.  (As it stands now, I don't think Ellis will get in, although he does deserve to!) 

I am getting a little concerned though.  Ellis has been playing a lot of 48 minute games lately, and when he isn't playing 48 minutes hes playing 43 or more.  I guess this isn't incredibly unusual.  I'm sure lots of players have been used this much in the past, although I can't recall any Warrior doing it.  It seems like if there was a high correlation between playing 48 minutes a game and getting injured then teams would know that, and not play anyone 48 minutes a game.  But maybe not... 

I'm getting a little worried though.  The Warriors are going nowhere fast, especially with Randolph and Turiaf going down recently.  They probably never really had a chance at the playoffs.  They are probably (about) the 13th best team in the West, even when fully healthy, and they are definitely not fully healthy. 

So why play Moped for the whole game?  He is one of the most entertaining players to watch.  He is absolutely incredible in my opinion and makes the Warriors really fun to watch.  But the amount of time he hits the ground hard in every game, and the amount of minutes hes playing, and the way the Warriors are relying on him so much has to be wearing him out!  How long can he keep this up!?!  It pains  me to say this because Moped is so entertaining, but the Dubs need to give him some more rest.  You're not going to make the playoffs and it seems to me that playing Ellis like this could lead to an injury, and could potentially even shorten his career!  Maybe I'm overreacting, but I'm not sure that I am.  His body has to be really worn out!  He jumps high enough so that his head gets close to the backboard, and then comes crashing to the ground after colliding with a big man at least a few times a game.

So should Nellie continue to play Moped 48 minutes a game and hope he doesn't run out of gas? 

(Also just for fun) Do you think he should be an allstar?  Do you think he will be?

Hey Ya'll, I'm over here from Goldenstateofmind.com (the Warriors fan page).  Just curious to see how your new acquisition, Stephen Jackson, is being received by Bobcats fans.  I don't see any posts about him recently.  Do you guys like him, dislike him, think he was overrated but is alright, or think something else?  I haven't really kept close track of what his stats have been like, although I'm fairly certain that ya'll aren't winning any more games then you were before the trade.  From one cellar dweller fan to another I wish your team good luck!

I just want to save everyone a lot of time.  The Warriors are bad.  It doesn't matter how much potential they have.  None of the players are going to get so much better that it really makes a difference.  It doesn't matter what trades they make.  They are most likely not going to be able to trade for a player who will make a difference, unless they trade Curry, Randolf, or Ellis, and even then (I think we might be overrating the potential of our team's players) I don't think we could get Bosh, or one of the few players who could make a big difference. 

They're going to be bad this year, the only way they could possibly get better is if they trade for an injury prone player (tmac) or an troubled player (like baron was years ago) who hasn't been doing will recently but miraculously starts doing better when he gets to the Warriors.  I don't think this would be a good move to make even if it worked out well, and the chances of it working out well aren't good.

So I'm just gonna say it right now.  Don't be surprised if Nellie doesn't play  Randolf, even if the Warriors are obviously a bad team that might as well play its young player to give them experience.  Its obvious that Nellie doesn't care about that.  And try not to get mad when the Warriors lose all but 26 of their games, (and the games they win will almost all be to teams like the Grizz, so don't read to much into a good game against a horrible team.  They Dubs get creamed by the Clippers at home after all) 

Like I said earlier, I'm just trying to save people some time.  I'm also just trying to save everyone from the emotional pain that having high expectations for this team can incur.  If you have any expectations (even getting a high pick in the draft lottery) you will be dissappointed. 

The Warriors will suck.  Curry and (hopefully) Randolf will get playing time and get better.  But the Warriors aren't going to make the playoffs.  They will be frustrating to watch.  They will not do bad enough to get a high pick.  They won't get any luck in the draft lottery and end up with the  9th pick, and then they will do it all again next year!!!!!

I have been a faithful Warriors fan for most of my life and I am more excited about the players we have now then I have been in a while.  I do not expect this years team to do extremely well.  I figure the Warriors will do what they do best and finish somewhere in between the 9th and 13th worst record in the league.  They will miss they playoffs (and not be particularly close to making it.  Not even close enough to make it exciting at the end of the year) and they will finish with a good enough record that they will have almost no chance at a top three draft pick (which would be so exciting to get!!!).

With that said, I am feeling somewhat optimistic about our roster and its (get ready for the "p" word...)  Potential  As I already stated, I think this year will be frustrating in regards to our record, but I think it could still be a fun year.  I was not expecting everyone (Even the rookie hating coach) to be so hyped up about Curry.  I thought that he might be a bust.  If not a bust, I thought that he would be the second coming of M Dunleavy.  A player who could shoot and score tons in college who would become a decent NBA player.  It seems that I may have been wrong from everything that I am hearing recently, and we will all get to see for ourselves very soon!  (!!!!)

Also, don't for get about Moped...  I mean Monta Ellis.  Sure, he lied.  Sure hes said some dumb things.  Sure, I don't think he will ever develop into a legitimate number one option.  But he could be a really good second or third option, or even option 1B or 1C (as shown two years ago when Jack, B Diddy, and Moped switched roles from night to night on who was the go to guy).  He is a very good player, when healthy, and still very young.  We still don't know if he will be able to play with Curry, which means having an undersized shooting guard, but it could be exciting and fun to watch.

Buike is a solid young 3, though he will probably never be spectacular.

I don't think Randolf will ever be a 3, but I think he could be a vicious and ferocious 4.  As discussed often on this forum, he has the potential to become a KG or Bosh caliber player.  He has star power.

I've been impressed by Wright although I know many people haven't.  I think he can be a good NBA starter.  Maybe not a star, but I'm not convinced that he will not make at least one all-star team during his career (if he can stay healthy)

Biedrins is solid, as we all know.

So the Warriors seemingly have solid young players with lots of potential at every position.  Kinda exciting isn't it!!!!!

I just have one question.  If Randolf becomes a super star then I think these players can go a long way and possibly even bring a championship home.  Think about it.  If all these players reach their "full potential"  this team could be real good, for a very long time.

This leads me to my question.  Do you think these players will get good enough, and work well enough together that they can turn into a good, playoff caliber team?  Obviously thats the goal, but does that seem realistic to you?  I think that these players could become good enough that the Dubs could be a perennially playoff team, but I don't really see them bring home a championship.  As I see it, everything hinges on Randolf.  If he can become a top 3 Power Forward in this league the the sky is the limit.  If Randolf cannot become a perennial all-star then the best I can see the Dubs doing is barely making the playoffs for years to come.

How do you feel about these players.  If everyone can stay healthy, what would the Dubs look like in 3 years if they kept these players together without making significant changes?  What is the best you see them doing, what is the worst, and what do you think they would actually do 3 years from now?

Since I do not forsee a surprise playoff berth this year, its fun to speculate about the future.  Go dubs!

Who can really be mad at Monta Ellis or Stephen Jackson?  They just make so much sense.  Moped recently said something to the effect of "I don't want to play in a back court with Curry."  And Jackson recently said something to the effect of "Get me the f*ck out of here.  This team is not good, and will not be good for...  well... forever?"  Now Jackson saying this right after getting his contract extension is infuriating, but was really nothing more then stupidity by the Warriors. 

Now, it seems that people on this website are mad at Ellis, but serioiusly?  Do y'all seriously think that having tow 6"3' guards is a good idea?  Do y'all seriously think that will work defensively against Kobe, Durant, or even V. Carter?  No, it won't.  It won't work against any team with an average sized two guard who is decent.  How could it? 

As long as the Warriors are making bad bussiness moves (Jackson, C.M.) and keep doing random things. seemingly without any direction whatsoever, then who can really be mad at Jackson for wanting out?  If I were Jackson I would rather go to...  any other team then the Warriors.  Minnesota?  Hell yeah.  At least they have a bunch of young players the fit somewhat together, with potential.  Add Jackson to that and you might have a decent team.  Until the Warriors prove that they can make better moves then I could if I owned my own franchise I see no reason why any decent player would want to stay with them.

This may be a bit harsh, and I do love my dubs and want to see them do well, but the truth is the truth.  And sometimes the truth hurts.  The truth is that the Dubs are dysfunctional.  Half the time it doesn't seem that they have a coherent plan.  And the other half of the time, their plan seems... well... stupid.

Okay, so as an NBA fan I am utterly confused.  Lakers get Pau Gasol for next to nothing.  Orlando gets Vince and the Cavs get Shaq, and what did they give up???!?!!!?  NOTHING! 

Now looking at the Warriors, (who are rumored to be in Serious talks about getting Amare, although they woundn't get him for nothing)  maybe they just don't have the right expiring contracts, but why can't they get in on these kinds of trades.  They got Baron for next to nothing, but he was an injury prone player who had attitude problems.  That is NOT the same as Pau Gasol.

So I'm just curious about why teams that are already good seem to be able to pull off these amazingly one sided trades, while the Warriors don't.  If the Dubs could have got Gasol Vince and Shaq for the crap that was traded for those three players they would be a better team then they are right now.  But at least we've got Jackson and Magette tied up for the next 4 season...  (sarcasm in case you can't tell)

So I was just thinking about how this upcoming draft is far inferior to the past couple of drafts, but that we have a better position then we had in any of the really deep drafts.  And that got me thinking...  Even though the Warriors have only made the playoffs once in the past 15 (i think) years, it doesn't seem like they've ever had that good of a draft position either.  We've still had good drafts getting Biedrins, and Ellis, and it seems that Wright, Randolf, and Belinelli have potential, but the highest any of those players was drafted was at 7!  Thats not really that high, and we had to trade to Wright, we didn't even get that draft position on our own.

I remember there were a couple years where we won a bunch of games at the end of the year (kind of like this year actually) and its ruined our draft position.  Most notably I remember missing out on B Roy, who we could have (not that we necessarily would have) drafted if we had not won a bunch of games at the end of the season.

As for the past couple years, its just unfortunate that our only two winning seasons in 15 years came in years where the draft was so deep.  Same with 2003 when the draft was fully of future stars.

I'm not advocating that we lose on purpose for draft position, but how can we have continued to lose so much, yet have our average draft position be 10 over the past 11 drafts

Things are looking up for the Warriors and I think they will make the playoffs next year and be a fun and exciting team.  I guess thats really all you can ask cause only one team can win the championship every year, but unless Randolf turns into an absolute monster (which he could) I can't see the Warriors being better then a second round playoff team into the future.  Maybe we have to go through a couple seasons of really sucking so that we can get our Duran, Westbrook, and Green to build around.

Yay!  The warriors beat the Mavericks!  And better yet Randolph and Wright kicked some serious (you know what), so I'm the happiest fan in the world.  Two game winning streak!  Could we have built a better team for the future!?  This season may be over, but I'm SO STOKED FOR NEXT YEAR!!!

 (2 days later)

What?!?!  Did the Warriors seriously just get beat by the Suns!?!?!  Maybe I should never watch this team again.  Cohan and Rowell are the worst people running any sports organization.  Why are kicking Mullin out of the organization? Why did we trade J-Rich?!?!  Why did we let Baron go!?!?!  And Don Nelson has NO IDEA what he is doing.  He needs to play the young players!!  Except when he does play the young players, I think I might start to get mad at D-Nel, because it takes a real jerk to tank the of the season like that.

So this pretty much sums up 90% of what I see on this website.  Reactive garbage that takes the last game, or few games too seriously. 
So what do people actually think of the team in general?  Its direction and how we'll do next year?

I personally, like what I see.  This season is lost.  But if we're healthy next year, I see Monta playing the point and being decent at it. Jackson playing shooting guard and being Cap. Jack.  Buike playing the 3, with Wright and Randolph coving the 4 in exciting fashion.  Beans and Ronny-T will be solid at the 5.  Magette will win 6th man of the year, or at least come close. 

And this is if we don't get a good point guard somehow.  If that happens everything will shift for the better.  I'm not an overly optimistic person, but I think we are a playoff team next year when healthy.