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Just giving a shout out to the Blogfather who will be hosting the ESPN: NBA Today Podcast on Fridays for the rest of the season.

about 1 month ago Untitled_tiny hightide 0 comments

Blazer's Edge 1/22 Trade Drawer: Other teams wants

Teams A through Mish...  I actually don't watch very many games outside of the Blazers (not a true NBA junkie) and I'll be glad to edit this list if anyone smarter has something to say.  Roy, LMA, and, Oden are all untouchable and Pryzbilla is untradable/(confusing situation) to simplify things.

 

Atlanta:  Hmmm... What a great team to start off with.  Outside of Joe Johnson's impending FA this summer, nothing really needs to be done for this team that stands out.  Even though KP might call about Zaza Pachuila or Joe Smith, Atlanta needs them for the playoffs.  So outside of trying to rip the Blazers off, Atlanta will probably politely decline any trade offers from the Blazers.

 

Players wanted: N/A

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KP trying to learn from past mistake (Josh McRoberts)?

In 2007, Josh McRoberts, a potential lottery pick with some question about his game, fell to the second round. His free-fall was ended my KP with the 37th pick. I wonder if KP didn't have McRoberts high on his draft board, but drafted him because he was a highly regarded talent with ties to Oden. Do you think when Blair was available at 33, KP looked at his big board, then at everyone else's big board, remembered Josh and then went his own way?

over 2 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 38 comments

Hulu has "Gunnin' for that #1 Spot", which features the Blazer's very own, and now undisputed back PG, Jarryd Bayless.

Edit: thanks to L-TrainFTW for pointing out my mistake.

over 2 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 11 comments 1 recs

Luol Deng tweaked his left groin at shootaround on Tuesday and might not be able to play in Wednesday's game.

Is there's a difference between left groin verses just groin?

Link via rotoworld

about 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 2 comments

Blazer's Edge Projecting Next Season's Rotation (Shows major changes ahead?)

Updated: Now with 100% more Power Forward and Projected Rotations!

 

Like almost every Blazer fan here I have spent time wondering which players are here for the long haul and who I'll have to shed a tear for in the upcoming off-season. Looking back at last season it seemed almost destined that Jarred Jack was going to leave. Even though Jack was likable (to some), played great with Roy, and was one of the toughest players on a soft team, he had two deadly strikes against him: He didn't fit in with the next season's rotation and his upside didn't seem to fit in Portland's blueprints.

 

Extrapolating Jarred's situation to this season's team, I want to mainly work through a projected rotation to see if I can make a good guess at who stays and who goes. No favorites, cute bottoms or crazy 11 man rotations. Nate has hinted that he prefers an 8 man rotation, and I don't blame him. Its hard watching situations like Sergio last season or Frye this year. I hate situations where guys get only 10 rotational minutes a night, and according to Hollinger, this is not only rare, but performance is negatively affected. So, lets have some fun and trim 13 worthy and likable players into an 8 (or 9)-man rotation.

 

First, the center rotation since it is probably the most set in stone with Oden starting and Przybilla as the back-up. Personally, I think Przybilla's status as the back-up is cemented because Oden and LMA are such a perfect pair that it almost requires both of them to be on the court at the same time, and consequently off the court at the same time too. This means separate back-ups at both positions, and no 3 quality big man rotation at both spots (as I found out when I tried to pencil out the minutes for an Okur, Oden and LMA rotation... it just doesn't work). Portland couldn't asked for a better back-up center than Joel, and since he is on the team it's worth leaving alone.

 

Next, the guards, and since Nate doesn't want another 10 man rotation the guards are a perfect place to start trimming. A 3-man rotation at guard: Roy, Rudy, and Blake. Each can get at least 30 minutes, and based off the first few games this year, I think this is Nate's ultimate plan (but has since started to play Sergio more). However, I could see Blake getting swapped out for some one else (Hinrich?). But (for next season at least), Blake is a vet, can set up the offense, and is cheap. It's worth noting that Bayless is the perfect back up in this situation, since he can play both SG and PG, would settle for injury and blowout PT for another year and is currently on the Blazers.

 

Finally, PF and SF. LMA obviously starts PF, but back-up PF minutes are up for grabs. SF is where it starts to become a real guessing game, since it is mathematically impossible to spread 48 minutes between Webster, Outlaw, and Batum. I'm going to guess that the least likely to go is Batum (cheap, upside), leaving an either/or between Webster and Outlaw. KP will probably wait until the season is over to pull the trigger (especially since Webby hasn't played yet), but I am going to take the plunge and go Webster over Outlaw because of Webster's extension. Webster starts and Batum not only gets the back-up SF minutes, but also as much as he can handle of the back-up PF minutes to further cut down on rotation (but its worth noting that Batum starting and Outlaw backing up both positions might make the most sense). This leaves a projected 8 and 9 man rotations of:

 

Guards: Roy (34mins), Rudy (32mins), Blake (30mins)

F: Webster (32mins), LMA (34mins), Batum (26mins) or Batum (16mins), Freeland (14mins) 

C: Oden (32mins), Przybilla (20mins) or Przybilla (16 mins)

Backups: Bayless (guard PG/SG), Freeland or draft (big PF), and random (SF).

Game Flow of 8 man, with small ball second unit:

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And a 9 man rotation for teams with a true back-up PF (like everyone pointed out Batum is just pretending to be an actually PF to get more minutes) with my pipe-dream Freeland.

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(This is just my example of streamlined rotations).  My favorites, Sergio and Frye, don't make the cut. Neither did the loser of Webster/Outlaw. Ike also looks increasingly like he will try to find greener pastures in the off-season. In conclusion, I think Sergio, Frye, Webster or Outlaw, and Ike are all likely candidates to feel the pressure of a tighter rotation. Just not enough PT for everyone, and its time to stop giving players only 10 minutes of PT a night.  However, I didn't add any new players for Reaf's contract or FA 09, which if it is a big addition would probably just replace some one in the rotation.  

 

Basically, what  I am saying is that if you pencil out every minute, there isn't enough PT for a solid rotation for everyone who deserves it on the Blazers next season.  So be prepared to get your heart broken.

 

Now it is your turn, how do you see the roster shaking out based on your own projected rotations for next year.

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What Do You Think
Yes
20 votes
No
34 votes
I’ve been wrong so many times I just agree with Dave
25 votes

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Greg Oden's elbow found Joel Przybilla's head in the open scrimmage at Cleveland High School. It looks like Przybilla needed four to five stitches above his right eye.

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 5 comments

SLEEPER

Joel Freeland, Great Britain: Even British basketball fans were stunned when the Portland Trail Blazers made the unknown forward a first-round draft pick in 2006.

Fast-forward two years -- and an additional 25 pounds on Freeland's 6-foot-11 frame -- and it seemed the Blazers knew what they were doing.

After Freeland missed playing for the national team last year, Freeland stunned Great Britain's coaches with his improvement, a reflection of the fact that the 21-year-old took up basketball at the age of 16. Averages of 10 points and 5.6 boards in 19 minutes a game show his potential.

Also, some good words for Koponen

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 0 comments

Channing Frye Trick Shot

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 1 comment

Rudy Verse Lithuania -- With a big BE thanks to joshlairhill

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 0 comments

Rudy against Angola in the Olympics

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 7 comments 1 recs

This is a little late but I thought it was a good article about 2009's free agency. Interesting tidbit about the Hawks:

"The Atlanta Hawks could clear enough cap space for a player at or near the max, but it would take letting both Mike Bibby and Marvin Williams walk and renouncing the rights to Josh Childress."

Marvin Williams or Josh Childress? I like! Or how about Felton, Morrison or the poetry of McCants? (all have might be let go to clear cap room).

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 0 comments

CBS anoints Drexler the 2nd best dunker in NCAA history

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 1 comment

Nice Blazer props from the folks at NBAdraft.net. The writer doesn't get everything right, again most people don't understand the complete ramifications of the Zack Randolph trade, but at least he understands the brilliance of KP.

over 3 years ago Untitled_tiny hightide 7 comments 5 recs

Blazer's Edge KP's Risk Assessment

I think it is a good time to throw out an idea that has been ruminating in my head for about a week.  Since this discussion involves draft pick, for the sake of the argument lets assume that the lower lottery draft order remains relatively stagnant.  

 KP recently said in an interview with Hoopsworld:

"I look at the draft as risk assessment as much as anything. We all like to say that we are basketball experts but in truth, it is somewhat a black box.  You just don't know exactly how it is going to turn out...  We look at picks as liquid assets. But since they are liquid, they are very movable. They can be traded; you can take a couple picks and move up or move down. What I look at is it gives me the flexibility to do a lot of things."

 A couple people questioned what "Risk Assessment" meant, but on the last Trail Blazers Courtside KP alluded to the meaning:

"If you look at the last 15 or 18 years of the draft, there is potentially 7 or 8 really, really, top notch players.  This season seems to be up holding that way.  There are potentially seven or eight stars.  I think from 8 to 12 you can still get an impact player, it may not be an immediate impact...  But your risk goes up...   As usually we'll be active as anyone in the draft.

Right now Portland is 13th, and that isn't likely to change, just outside of KP's 2nd range of talent.  So, what to do, trade the pick for a good veteran?  Or, take a chance at trading up in the draft?  Then again, the Blazers could just keep the pick and draft the best player who falls to them.  All these possibilities deserve a good hard look, so here I go.

The problem with trying to trade for a vet is that when you look at the options and mechanics of a trade, I don't see how that is actually going to happen.  It sounds good in theory, but especially when you look at PGs there doesn't seem to be a lot available (good PG aren't just traded), it will eat up 2009 cap space, and will require some money magic from Tom Penn to make salaries close.  Ideally, the Blazes would receive a good player in return, and good players have large salaries.  This would require more involved then just the pick, players would be needed to match salaries, which is a problem because Portland has very few disposable assets (McRoberts, VonWafer) and one huge expiring contract (Reaf) that is instrumental in a 2009 free-agent spending spree.  If KP works something out more power to him (Like King or Absolute Emperor would be more deserving then GM).

Another option is stay at 13ish and take whoever falls.  There will be many good prospects fall to this pick, players like D.J. Augustin, Darren Collison, Nicolas Batum, Kevin Love, Donte Greene, or Anthony Randolph (according to the wonderful sites draftexpress.com and nbadraft.net) could be available if they chose to declare this year.  Of those Darren Collison or D.J. Augustin could potentially be an upgrade over the dependable and lovable Steve Blake at the vital PG position.  There has been much support for Darren Collison (good read, comments are great with both sides of the story clearly stated) and Collison does look like a great PG prospect that will fall to our pick.  But, I didn't post KP comments just to fill up your brain, I think this is where KP's risk comments come in.

By playing connect-the-dots, I think we can decipher the breadcrumb trail KP has left for us to follow.  In the Hoopsworld article, KP indicated that risk was a major factor in the draft, every pick is like reaching into a black box and pulling out a NBA career, you never know what if you will pull out a Ryan Leaf or Payton Manning (before you point it out, I know it's the wrong sport).  At Trail Blazers Courtside, KP disclosed that the way to reduce risk is to get one of the 7 to 8 impact players, because after that "your risk goes up."  Each year at draft time every player looks like a sure-fire impact player, but in reality the same pattern repeats itself.  Some live up their high billings, most disappoint softly, sleepers emerge, and others become ugly busts. Now the Jayhawks taught KP statistics good, while there is no way to tell who will be who (otherwise there would be no busts), outside of scouting, there is only one way to reduce your risk.  To reduce risk you change the Black Box you pick out of...  That's it.  Lets participate in an exercise using the last 10 NBA drafts, simply pick the box you would want to randomly select a player out of.

Black Box #1: Corey Brewer, Randy Foye, Charlie Villanueva, Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich, Nene Hilario, Eddie Griffin, Chris Mihm, Richard Hamilton, and Jason Williams.

Black Box #2: Julain Wright, Thabo Sefolosha, Sean May, Sebastian Telfair, Marcus Banks, Marcus Haislip. Richard Jeffersion, Courtney Alexander, Corey Maggette, and Keon Clark.

Black Box #2 was the last ten 13th picks in the NBA draft and the players Black Box #1 where the last ten 7th picks (13th is were the Blazers are now, and 7th is just in KP's first tier of talent).  As KP said, " We all like to say that we are basketball experts but in truth ... You just don't know exactly how it is going to turn out." While the Blazers have great scouts, their impact is limited, a kin to removing a Eddie Griffin or Keon Clark out of their respective boxes, it is still a crap-shoot, but the odds are better.  It's not like the best players taken 13th were not as good as the 7th pick players, but there are a lot more of busts at 13th than 7th, so statically if you wanted to reduce risk you would pick out of box #1.  To those of us detached from reality and in love with economic theories and statistics, this is the most reasonable way of looking at the draft.  The 7th pick gets you the success rate of Box #1 and the 13th pick get you the same rate as Box #2.

Basically, I just gave you a long-winded reason why KP's risk assessment and his Trail Blazers Courtside interview means KP is looking to trade up in the draft.  Now lets expand on risk assessment and why this course is superior to staying pat.  This year will probably be the Blazers last year in the lottery for the next 10 or more years.  The Trail Blazers are looking for a feather in their cap, one more player to help them win championships.  This is their last chance to make the Big 3 into the Big 4 (or 5 if you include Rudy) before a decade of Playoff runs.  KP knows that this pick maybe the difference between one championship banner in the rafters and a dynasty (that's fun to say) and he is looking for blood!  

If you believed you were one great player from a dynasty, would you want to pick from Box #1, or Box #2?  If I were KP, I would break open Paul's piggy bank, pile up our picks, make profession portfolios of our players (everyone not named Roy, Aldridge, or Oden), and make sure that every team in the top 8 gets the message that Portland wants to trade up.  Just for that extra 20% chance of getting a great player, that extra 20% of having a dynasty (20% is an arbitrary number).  Not only will trading up in the draft get us a better chance of the prospect turning out, but will also preserve the Blazers 2009 cap room, something trading for a good vet, and the probable large salary, doesn't allow.  

Now, I've spent the whole time talking without any specifics, which is fine in the "long run", but this is a concrete draft with players who have defined skills and positions. So, lets look at the top of the draft.  The 7 or 8 impact players KP was probably talking about are looking like Michael Beasley, Derrick Rose, Jerryd Bayless, Brook Lopez, O.J. Mayo, Danilo Gallinari, Blake Griffin, and Eric Gordon (maybe Russell Westbrook too) according to the draft websites.  

One of the best arguments for staying at 13 is the best pass first PG's outside of Rose (D.J. Augustin and Darren Collison) will probably be there and no way will KP be able to trade for Rose without giving up a core piece.  But, lets look at the blueprint/prototype for the Blazers.  5.8 assists doesn't sound like a true pass-first PG, but that is what Tony Parker averages this year in 34 minutes.  Parker assists per 48 minutes only 8.2 (same as Mo Williams), but the Spurs have won it all with him as their "QB".  So, what gives with Trail Blazer fan's obsession with pass first point guards? (See poll and tip of the hat to the astounding knickfan).  What gives is the Blazers shoulda/woulda taken Chris Paul or Deron Williams in 2005, and like a lover-boy who realized that his dumped ex was the best he'll ever get, we've built a shrine and keep calling, begging for a second chance in 2009.  Get over it!  It is time to stop living in the past and instead settle down with the first passable substitute that comes our way.  

If the Spurs can live with "fleet-footed, scoring PG" because they have a playmaking SG and a post presence, I don't see why Portland needs a pass first PG with a playmaking SG and TWO post presences.  Half the time the Blazers point guard will just pass the ball into the post, and a quarter of the time Roy will have the ball.  And running the pick and roll with an athletic big men with good hands doesn't require a passing wizard either, just look at Jemeer Nelson in Orlando.  The Blazer nation should realize that having Mayo, Bayless, or Gordon would be an unbelievable coup and shouldn't be turn off because they aren't pass-first point guards (well, Gordon's true SG).  I'll take a shoot first PG with a much better chance of become a solid player than Darren Collison with the smaller chance.  I don't mean to pick on Collison, I just bring up his name because if we stay pat at 13th, KP would be crazy not to take a hard look at drafting him.  

While there may be good choices at 13th, I think that the Blazers will try desperately to move up, not because there is a player who is a better fit at higher up, but because the chance that player will turn out is much higher then a lower tier talent.  KP and his risk assessment talk (and the fact that he was probably scouting Bayless the same day as the Courtside interview) seem to indicate his intentions of moving up.  Whatever KP's plan is, I know draft day will be fun.

That is all folks, weigh in with any comments, critiques, or your own interpretation of our much beloved GM's comments.

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Too Long!
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33 votes
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6 votes
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Blazer's Edge Draftexpress Trade Talk

I was listing to the Draftexpress's Podcast and of course the Blazers came up...  But I haven't heard of the rumors that they were talking about before.  Two Portland trades were mentioned, one to Boston and Atlanta, here is the rundown.

Boston:  Paul Pierce isn't getting younger and the East is wide open almost every year.  If Paul Pierce wasn't trilled in getting Oden or Durant, what is Yi Jianlian going do for him...

So Zack to Boston for Theo and number 5 pick.  Not bad for someone who some people want to dump for Brevin Knight.

Atlanta... Now here is where it gets interesting...  Atlanta is on the hotseat, they don't need a lot of more risk, they need something that would make the future a lot brighter in the short run... so here it goes...

LMA (take a deep breath) and Jack for Josh Smith and the number 3 pick.  

According to the draft guy talking he has heard from "A few different people" about this trade.  We would keep Zack, and be set at 4 positions (if we take Oden) and have 2 blue chips (Conely and Sergio) battling for the point guard spot.

What are your thoughts?

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What Would You Do?
Couldn't Care Less, Oden/Durant Can Do It Alone
5 votes
The Boston Trade
49 votes
The Atlanta Trade
4 votes
Neither
52 votes
Both Are Great Ideas
2 votes

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Blazer's Edge Trade ideas

Just a place to post trade ideas like...

Darius Miles and Travis Outlaw to Suns for
James Jones, Marcus Banks and Jalen Rose, (Real GM ID 3650535).

We get ride of Darius Miles (and his contract) who would do great in a uptempo offense and there is rumors of the Suns having their eye on Outlaw.  Suns great rid of Banks who is their 3rd best PG and 2 other players who aren't playing that much.  

Portland gets rid of Miles and while I like Outlaw he might be gone this summer.  In Jones we get a 3 point scorer and Bank could be something good and Jalen Rose for cap relief.

Suns get ride of some salary cap that isn't doing anything, Banks, Rose, and with a owner who is willing to sell Sergio for money this might be the deciding factor.  Most of Miles' contract this year is payed for because he is injured and he has one less year than Banks.  In the long run the Sun would probably save money.

However, I don't know much about the Suns and whether this would be good idea for them.  Also, the Suns probable wouldn't pull off this trade unless they started losing.  But, otherwise I think it is a win, win.

Any more musing out there?

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