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South Side Sox Alexei Ramirez or Ryan Theriot?

In light of new development in New York it is probably right time to open up a debate which of these could be available Shortstop White Sox should pursue and at what cost?

Alexei Ramirez
Ryan Theriot
Juan Uribe

My vote goes to Ramirez as we have had enough of sub 700 guys.

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South Side Sox Center Field Research


Tuesday - IE Problem Fixed

Here is little research I tried to put together for upcoming 
Center Field Market. Thought came to me when I was thinking how
any team is going to be able to afford all these 5/70 (and in Jones case 7/100?)
contracts for 32+ players and survive. Here is my baseline FA list.

Andruw Jones
Torii Hunter
Kosuke Fukudome
Aaron Rowand
Mike Cameron
Corey Patterson
Milton Bradley
Kenny Lofton

Here is current position analysis for all teams

Team      Current               Depth                                     Need

Orioles   Corey Patterson (L)   Freddie Bynum (L)   Tike Redman (L)       Yes
Red Sox   Coco Crisp (S)        Jacoby Ellsbury (L) Brandon Moss (L)      No
Yankees   Melky Cabrera (S)     Johnny Damon (L)    Bronson Sardinha(L)   No
Rays      B.J. Upton (R)        Jonny Gomes (R)                           No
Blue Jay  Vernon Wells (R)      Alex Rios (R)                             No
                                                                          
White So  Big Laugh             Bigger Laugh        Biggest Laugh         Yes
Indians   Grady Sizemore (L)    Kenny Lofton (L)    Gutierrez (R)         No
Tigers    Granderson(L)         Cameron Maybin (R)  Ryan Raburn (R)       No
Royals    David DeJesus (L)     Joey Gathright (L)  Shane Costa (L)       No
Twins     Torii Hunter (R)      Jason Tyner (L)     Lew Ford (R)          Yes
                                                                          
Angels    Gary Matthews Jr(S)   Reggie Willits (S)  Nathan Haynes (L)     No
A's       Jeff DaVanon (S)      Nick Swisher (S)    Colby Lewis (R)       Yes
M's       Ichiro Suzuki (L)     Adam Jones (R)      Willie Bloomquist(R)  No
Rangers   Marlon Byrd (R)       David Murphy (L)    Brad Wilkerson (L)    Yes
                                                                          
Braves    Andruw Jones (R)      Willie Harris (L)               Yes       
National  Austin Kearns (R)     Nook Logan (R)      Ryan Church (L)       No
Mets      Carlos Beltran (S)    Milledge (R)        Endy Chavez (L)       No
Philies   Aaron Rowand (R)      Shane Victorino (S) Jayson Werth (R)      Yes
Marlins   Alejandro De Aza(L)   Alfredo Amezaga (S) Reggie Abercrombie(R) No
                  
Cubs      Jacque Jones (L)      Felix Pie (L)       Craig Monroe (R)      Yes
Reds      Josh Hamilton (L)     Norris Hopper (R)   Jason Ellison (R)     No
Astros    Hunter Pence (R)      Chris Burke (R)     Eric Bruntlett (R)    No
Pirates   Nate McLouth (L)      Nyjer Morgan (L)    Jose Bautista (R)     No
Cardinal  Jim Edmonds (L)       So Taguchi (R)      Skip Schumaker (L)    No
Brewers   Bill Hall (R)         Corey Hart (R)      Gabe Gross (L)        No
                  
Dodgers   Juan Pierre (L)       Andre Ethier (L)    Matt Kemp (R)         No
Padres    Mike Cameron (R)      Milton Bradley (S)  Brady Clark (R)       Yes
Giants    Dave Roberts (L)      Randy Winn (S)      Rajai Davis (R)       Yes
Rockies   Ryan Spilborghs (R)   Cory Sullivan (L)   Clint Barmes (R)      No
D'Backs   Chris B. Young (R)    Eric Byrnes (R)                           No             

                  
We can completely eliminate some teams from this list. eg.(Blue Jays, Astros, Rays, 
Tigers no need) to (Marlins, Pirates, Nationals, A's Can't afford/won't spend) so 
my new list becomes

Orioles     Corey Patterson (L)

White Sox   Big Laugh
Twins       Torii Hunter (R) 

Rangers     Marlon Byrd (R) 

Braves      Andruw Jones (R) 
Philies     Aaron Rowand (R) 

Cubs        Jacque Jones (L) 
    
Padres      Mike Cameron (R) 
Giants      Dave Roberts (L)

Now, if Twins, Braves and Padres had intention to spend they would have signed their 
prospective FAs so we can take them out at least for first 6 FAs on the list. I think
Phillies sign Rowand, Rangers sign Hunter and Braves sign Patterson and we can eliminate 
Lofton so new list becomes

Andruw Jones
Kosuke Fukudome
Mike Cameron
Milton Bradley

Orioles     Corey Patterson (L)
White Sox   Big Laugh
Cubs        Jacque Jones (L) 
Giants      Dave Roberts (L)

I don't know if Cubs and Giants can afford another 100 mil contract and go wrong.
White Sox won't deal with Boras so if Jones ends up getting 100 mil + I think Boras
goes to Hall

I think at the end of the day it is very good chance White Sox end up with Fukudome for 3/30 or
something. 
Oooffff...  let's dicuss

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South Side Sox Couple of weeks ahead

Hey,
Sox went 4-2 when I posted this last time, let's see what happens now. Sorry Cheat, still can't figure formatting out.



Tuesday, May 15, 2007     NY Yankees at Chicago Sox     Mussina vs Danks
Wednesday, May 16, 2007   NY Yankees at Chicago Sox     Wang vs Contreras
Thursday, May 17, 2007    NY Yankees at Chicago Sox     Matt DeSalvo vs Garland 
Update [2007-5-15 14:10:56 by indianguy30]: I thought we would get by Rasner...
I have bad feeling about this change]

Friday, May 18, 2007 Chicago Sox at Chicago Cubs Buehrle vs Lilly Saturday, May 19, 2007 Chicago Sox at Chicago Cubs Vazquez vs Marquis Sunday, May 20, 2007 Chicago Sox at Chicago Cubs Danks Vs Zambrano Monday, May 21, 2007 Oakland at Chicago Sox Contreras Vs Blanton Tuesday, May 22, 2007 Oakland at Chicago Sox Garland Vs Braden Wednesday, May 23, 2007 Oakland at Chicago Sox Buehrle Vs Gaudin
Friday, May 25, 2007 Tampa Bay at Chicago Sox Vazquez Vs Seo Saturday, May 26, 2007 Tampa Bay at Chicago Sox Danks Vs Shields Sunday, May 27, 2007 Tampa Bay at Chicago Sox Contreras Vs Fossum

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South Side Sox Looking ahead next week

Hey, look there is reprieve. Santana guy is not pitching. That is good place to get on track

Tuesday, May 8, 2007   Chicago Sox at Minnesota     Vazquez   vs  Bonser
Tuesday, May 9, 2007   Chicago Sox at Minnesota     Danks     vs  Ortiz
Tuesday, May 10, 2007  Chicago Sox at Minnesota     Contreras vs  Silva
Tuesday, May 11, 2007  Chicago Sox at Kansas City   Garland   vs  Perez
Tuesday, May 12, 2007  Chicago Sox at Kansas City   Buehrle   vs  Greinke
Tuesday, May 13, 2007  Chicago Sox at Kansas City   Vazquez   vs  De La Rosa


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South Side Sox 2008 Outlook

Player         2007            Position      2008

Aardsma        $387,500        Pitcher       $400,000    *
Anderson       $390,000        Outfield      $400,000    ***
Buehrle        $9,500,000      Pitcher      
Cintron        $1,900,000      Shortstop     $2,200,000  *
Contreras      $9,000,000      Pitcher       $10,000,000
Crede          $4,940,000      Third         $7,000,000  *
Danks          $380,000        Pitcher       $400,000    *
Dye            $7,500,000      Outfield      
Erstad         $750,000        First         $3,500,000  ****
Garland        $10,000,000     Pitcher       $12,000,000
Hall           $1,750,000      Catcher       $1,750,000
Iguchi         $3,250,000      Second        $6,000,000  *
Jenks          $400,000        Pitcher       $1,000,000  *
Konerko        $12,000,000     First         $12,000,000
MacDougal      $1,500,000      Pitcher       $1,950,000
Mackowiak      $2,750,000      Second        $3,250,000
Masset         $381,000        Pitcher       $400,000    *
Molina         $380,000        Catcher       $0
Ozuna          $800,000        Second        $1,050,000
Pierzynski     $5,500,000      Catcher       $5,500,000
Podsednik      $2,900,000      Outfield      $0          *
Sisco          $405,000        Pitcher       $875,000    *
Thome          $14,833,333     DH            $14,833,333 **  $7,000,000
Thornton       $425,000        Pitcher       $875,000
Uribe          $4,150,000      Shortstop     $5,000,000  ****
Vazquez        $12,500,000     Pitcher       $11,500,000

               $108,671,833                  $101,883,333

                               Net Payroll   $94,883,333

* Projected
** 7M from Philly
*** Could be Fields/Sweeny
**** Option Picked up

Assumptions

Iguchi resigns @ 6M

All figures are from Cot's blog [http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/]

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Hate to bring this up right now when nation is down, but it doesn't get any better. If payroll is increased upto 110M we will have about 16M to replace Buehrle and Dye. I am assuming they might non tender couple of guys.(Erstad, Crede, Mackowiack) and trade couple of others(Garland/Contreras). Since there is a talk that they will match Buehrle's offer, I am assuming they might offer him 4/52M with vesting option for 5th year at same AAV. that will mean that if we are dreaming of Andrew Jones or Miguel Cabrera, we may want to hold off.

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South Side Sox Why would Garland be available

Why would Red Sox think that Garland is available? I think this is Gammons' way of starting something out of nothing? Current RedSox rotation Schilling Backett Wakefield Matsuzaka Pappelban/Lester Where would Garland fit? I think they are probably scared to death with their closer situation and are looking to move someone from this group to closer. Or may be they were looking at Gar to close. He is also saying that out of the group of Sox hard throwers, RHP Adam Russel has opened some eyes by throwing 97-98 on radar gun

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