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Mid-year Elias Sports Bureau free agent rankings

melottfan — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:14:16 -0000

Mid-year Elias Sports Bureau free agent rankings

At the end of each season, The Elias Sports Bureau ranks all MLB players numerically based on a bunch of stats. Every player is categorized in one of five position groups and by league. The rankings cover a two-year time period. They are used to determine whether free agents are Type A, Type B, or neither. If you'd like a reminder on how draft pick compensation works, read up here.

Eddie Bajek of Detroit Tigers Thoughts reverse-engineered the Elias Rankings last year. Eddie's incredible work was made possible in large part due to information provided by ESPN's Keith Law. Eddie is now providing the rankings exclusively to MLB Trade Rumors. Today's snapshot covers the beginning of the 2008 season through July 11th of 2009. So the rankings will obviously change over the next few months.

Most interesting to me:
1. Winn still a class A free agent (barely)
2. surprising little difference in Cains and Johnson's rankings

How about trading down and seeing what the young(er) guys can do

melottfan — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:32:36 -0000

Grant beautifully outlined why the Giants either acquire multiple quality players or it just isn't worth it.

I continue to see a bunch of people suggesting marginal to medium upgrades to what we currently have.

Since I don't see the Giants getting the number of impacting players needed, logically we either stand pat OR how about we explore trading our guys who are not in our longer term plans.

Yes, I believe our guys are worth more than some people think. I don't overvalue our guys, it is simply that the Giants have not been open much in the past to other teams minor leaguers because we were trying to fill specific spots on our major league roster -- making it difficult to find good trade partners and always making it a sellers market we were entering into as buyers.

Yes there would also be the "give up" backlash, but I think we could better set ourselves up for next year and making a serious run in the playoffs (not just getting there.)

I think following should be made available:

- Winn

- Rowand

- Renteria

- Molina

- Randy Johnson

- Howry

even Justin Miller

I'm not talking about a total, eat-a-bunch-of-salary-just-to-dump-players move, just if someone is interested, get best return possible without trying to fill specific major league holes. Then see what we really have. I honestly wouldn't mind playing the 2nd half with:

OF = Lewis, Schierholtz, Bowker, Torres (Copeland)

IF = Ishikawa, Sandoval, Burriss, Uribe, Frandsen, Downs (Jesus)

And with all the new parts coming in, if there is a impacting player available we could see on the team long term, then go for it and add another one or two during the off season.

What could have been...

melottfan — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:25:49 -0000

1. The moment prior to Zito giving up the big hit last night, he had a ERA of about 4.00 and had me thinking what is over/under he could sustain that for a whole year.

2. If Brian Wilson hadn't ordered hamburgers in his room from an overaggressive male in a ninja suit (or give up a big hit to the Diamondbacks), the Giants might be in second place in the west. Only two games back (one in loss column :o) and a half game back in the wild card race with only 144 to play.

well, there's always next season.

June 15 Draft signings update

melottfan — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:49:18 -0000

1	5	Quirate signs for 193K Buster Posey	C	Florida State	Fla.
1s	37	Conor Gillaspie	3B	Wichita State	Kan.
3	82	Roger Kieschnick	OF	Texas Tech	Texas
4	117	Brandon Crawford	SS	UCLA	Calif.
5	147	Edwin Quirate	RHP	Cal State Northridge	Calif.
6	177	Eric Surkamp	LHP	North Carolina State	N.C.
7	207	Aaron KIng	LHP	Surry (N.C.) CC	N.C.
8	237	Scott Barnes	LHP	St. John's	N.Y.
9	267	Ryan Verdugo	LHP	Louisiana State	La.
10	297	Ryan O'Sullivan	RHP	Valhalla HS, El Cajon, Calif.	Calif.
11	327	Justin Fitzgerald	RHP	UC Davis	Calif.
12	357	Ari Ronick	LHP	Portland	Ore.
13	387	Juan Perez	OF	Western Oklahoma State JC	Okla.
14	417	Caleb Curry	OF	Iowa	Iowa
15	447	Daniel Cook	2B	Florida Atlantic	Fla.
16	477	C.J. Ziegler	1B	Arizona	Ariz.
17	507	Brian Irving	RHP	Yale	Mass.
18	537	Brooks Lindsay	SS	Lower Columbia (Wash.) JC	Wash.
19	567	Ryan Mantle	OF	Missouri State	Mo.
20	597	Trey Sutton	2B	Southern Mississippi	Miss.
21	627	Michael Eifel	RHP	Dominican (Ill.)	Ill.
22	657	Carter Bell	3B	Vanier SS, Toronto	B.C.
23	687	Jason Jarvis	RHP	Lincoln (American Assoc.)	Neb.
24	717	Wes Musick	LHP	Houston	Texas
25	747	Damon Wright	OF	Dartmouth	N.H.
26	777	Ryan Lormand	2B	Houston	Texas
27	807	Kyle Woodruff	RHP	Chico State (Calif.)	Calif.
28	837	Shane Kaufman	RHP	San Diego State	Calif.
29	867	Robert Flanigan	1B	North Georgia College and State	Ga.
30	897	Vladimir Frias	SS	Tennessee Wesleyan	Tenn.
31	927	Aaron Davidson	RHP	Arkansas-Fort Smith	Ark.
32	957	John Blake	RHP	Lake Sumter (Fla.) CC	Fla.
33	987	Ryne Price	OF	Kansas	Kan.
34	1017	Francois Lafreniere	RHP	Ahuntsic (Quebec) JC	Quebec
35	1047	Daniel Black	3B	Purdue	Ind.
36	1077	Matthew Way	LHP	Washington State	Wash.
37	1107	Jeremy Penn	RHP	Western Oklahoma State JC	Okla.
38	1137	Chris Wilson	RHP	Trinidad State (Colo.) JC	Colo.
39	1167	Braden Kapteyn	3B	Illiana Christian HS, Lansing, Ill.	Mich.
40	1197	Austin Stadler	1B	James River HS, Midlothian, Va.	Va.
41	1227	Corey Figueroa	2B	St. Petersburg (Fla.) JC	Fla.
42	1257	Tyler Thompson	OF	Jupiter (Fla.) HS	Fla.
43	1287	Zack Thornton	RHP	Ventura (Calif.) JC	Calif.
44	1317	Aaron Lowenstein	C	UC Irvine	Calif.
45	1346	Kenneth Villines	2B	Riverside HS, Durham, N.C.	N.C.
46	1374	Joey Hainsfurther	SS	Highland Park HS, Dallas	Texas
47	1401	Abe Ruiz	3B	Pacific Grove (Calif.) HS	Calif.
48	1428	Leo Ochoa	2B	(No School)	Quebec
49	1455	Dalton Hicks	1B	Lake Brantley HS, Altamonte Springs, Fla.	Fla.
50	1482	Jeremy Ware	RHP	Arkansas State	Ark.