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Clips win in spite of Vinny (benching Bledsoe down the stretch let Memphis back in the game) i
Vinny really screwed up by taking Bledsoe out and leaving Mo in down the stretch. I'm sure free throws had something to do with it, but you don't have to worry about that when you are up by 10. Bledsoe makes things happen on defense.
Sure the Clips had problems of their own on the offensive end during that stretch, but it wouldn't have mattered had they made stops. Mo is a great, valuable player, but he is not a good defender, and should not be in down the stretch. Foye has done an admirable job on Gay and provides a shooting threat, so I can understand him being in the game late. Frankly, I'm not sure why Caron is always on the bench late in games. Vinny's subbing patterns are curious to say the least.
That being said, the Clippers got the job done. They showed guts. Despite being out-rebounded by 11 (and giving up 19 offensive rebounds - yikes!), they managed to do just enough to win.
This game was HORRIBLY officiated. Both teams were the victim of bad calls, though the Clips really got the short end of that. I really wish the NBA would figure out a way to get a handle on the bad refereeing. I'm never one to blame a loss on refs. Bad calls are part of the game. If you allow the game to be close, you allow the refs to be a factor. Play well and you don't have to worry about it. But their ineptitude does for a less enjoyable viewing experience.
Memphis is a tough, gritty team. I respect them. The only reason they haven't swept the Clippers is because they don't have a superstar to take over late in games, and we do. The NBA is a superstars league, and Chris Paul is a super-duper star.
Hypothetical: Should the Clippers hang a banner if they win the Pacific Division?
Last night, I told my wife that the Clippers still have an outside chance to win the Pacific Division.
Her reply was, "Wow, then we'll finally be able to put up a banner of our own."
I hadn't considered that. I know that some teams hang their division banners, but I don't recall whether there are currently any flying in Staples Center. I explained to her that it would be embarrassing for us to hang our one measly division banner next to the Lakers 15 Championship banners. She said it was just my ego, and that we should celebrate the accomplishment.
I told her that a division banner would be worse than having no banner at all, and that this was a strike-shortened season anyway. She said that all the teams played the same number of games, and that hanging a banner would be a nice F-U to the Lakers fans.
So I will put it to The Nation. If the Clippers are able to pass the Lakers in the standings and secure the Pacific Division title, should they hang a banner in the rafters as a celebration and an indication of our arrival, or should we not celebrate moral victories and realize that LA only respects championships?
Well, at least Blake's dunks on Gasol were entertaining
Blake's dunks over Pau were EPIC!!! The Lakers fans are whining that they were offensive fouls. I don't know who's softer, Gasol or Lakers fans.
Anyway, after awhile, nobody will remember who won this regular season game. But Gasol getting abused repeatedly will live on YouTube forever. Couldn't happen to a bigger crybaby.
Watching basketball is about being entertained. I get nothing if the Clippers win or lose. But watching Blake amaze me every night is invaluable.
So cheer up Clips fans. The Lakers beat a shorthanded Clippers squad, but Gasol got what he deserved. It would have been nice if the Clippers had won the game, but it really makes no difference in either the short term or the long term.
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Jerry Sloan May Return to Coaching (Clippers?)
Bottom half of the page. Jerry Sloan is reportedly interested in returning to the bench.
Should things go south with VDN, would anyone favor hiring Sloan to reinvent the Stockton/Malone pick-n-roll with Paul and Blake? He had a pretty good run with DWill and Boozer.
Plus Sloan preaches hard nosed defense, something the Clippers clearly lack this year.
HoopsHype interview with Chris Kaman
The Caveman shares his thoughts on the Clippers (past and present), New Orleans, and his NBA future.
Kaman is in the news a bit lately. The Miami Heat are rumored to be interested in acquiring him after New Orleans was unable to find a suitable trading partner.
No M-V-P chants, please. Ever.
I need all Clippers fans to commit to NEVER serenading a free throw shooting Clipper with the absurdly pathetic and insufferably ass-kissing chant of M-V-P. I'm not sure who invented this atrocity, but it has spread thru the NBA like a plague over the years.
As with everything, Lakers fans do it most annoyingly. Kobe worship is disturbing for many reasons, most notably Colorado. But the Kobe/M-V-P chant is patently incomprehensible. On it's face, it fails the logic test. Kobe is nowhere close to being the MVP of the NBA, and hasn't been for years. This should be obvious. Even if he were MVP material, the chant is tired and corny. Nobody over the age of 9 should participate in such frivolity. I don't expect Lakers fans, with their lethal combination of myopia and limited basketball knowledge, to understand this. But I do expect more of Clippers fans.
So please, PLEASE, unless your name is ClipperDarrell, or you are a child under the age of 12, restrain yourselves from participating in this ridiculous schoolyard chanting, even you think that Blake Griffin or Chris Paul are actually deserving of being recognized NBA MVP. We're not in nursery school.
Thank you.
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710 ESPN (Lakers station) discussing trading Blake for Dwight
The halfway decent Max & Macellus and the absurd Lakers apologists Mason & Ireland were discussing Dwight Howard rumors (as is their wont), and in particular, this newest rumor of Howard being "intrigued" by the Clippers.
Someone suggested that the Clippers trade Blake Griffin to the Magic for Howard, and slide DJ to PF.
It's typical of what passes for Lakers talk radio, but I thought I would put it out their to the Nation so that you can all weigh in.
Me first:
HELL NO!!!!!
I wouldn't trade Blake for Howard. Griffin is a dynamic talent who will only get better. Howard, while a defensive monster, has a limited offensive game, and may be close to reaching his peak.
What say you?
After Two Games: Any Buyer's Remorse?
Just wondering if any Clippers fans who were displeased with the Chris Paul trade have different feelings after two preseason games.
The intent here is not to antagonize or rekindle a debate. Just want to gauge reaction now that we have had a chance to see the new Clippers in action.
Anyone still wish we had EJ and Kaman, rather than CP3?
Gordon, Kaman Debut in Hornets Win
For those interested, see link for video highlights, recap and stats.
Photo gallery can also be found here.
Source: Lakers eye Mike Dunleavy
The Los Angeles Lakers have had to replace two coaching legends in the last 20 years: Phil Jackson and Pat Riley. The only time it's worked out well, the team turned to Mike Dunleavy. They're thinking of doing the same again this time.
Dunleavy was contacted by the team this week and is said to be on the team's most-current "short list" to succeed Jackson, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
Though his recent history with the Clippers was unsuccessful, Dunleavy is still viewed as a strong tactician around the league with an impressive history of postseason success. He was the NBA Coach of the Year in 1999 with the Portland Trail Blazers.
The Lakers have always thought fondly of the job he did in replacing Riley in 1990, leading the team to an upset over the Trail Blazers in the 1991 Western Conference finals before losing to Jackson's Chicago Bulls in the NBA Finals.
Dunleavy has maintained a friendship with Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss and his son Jim Buss over the years. As recently as last year he watched Lakers games with Buss from his suite at Staples Center.
He also has a long history with Bryant, whom he courted and nearly convinced to join the Clippers as a free agent in 2004.
Dunleavy is the winningest and was the highest-paid coach in Clippers history. He took the franchise to within one win of the Western Conference finals in 2006.
Dunleavy has a career record of 613-716 as a head coach with the Lakers, Milwaukee, Portland and the Clippers. Besides the 1990-91 run with the Lakers, he came within one game of the 2000 Finals with the Trail Blazers before a fourth-quarter collapse in Game 7 propelled Shaquille O'Neal and Bryant to their first of three championships together with the Lakers.
Clips Players Pay for Kim Hughes Cancer Surgery (2004)
Piggy backing off Citizen bpr's story about the cheapness of the Clippers, but with a more positive headline.
Next: Denver (love the way the Nuggs are playing)
I am enjoying watching Denver more than any other team right now. No stars, but rather, a solid 12 man platoon of really good players.
Look at the balancein the box score. And this is without Dino, who was playing well for them.
Good for Denver. They shed a player in Carmelo Anthony who only played on one side of the ball and have a rounded roster full of hustle guys. Love it.
I'll be watching them tonight against Utah to scout them, but I will enjoy watching them as well.
Hollinger suggests Kaman & Foye for Prince & Hamilton
Paul (East Lansing)
John, Would Detroit or LA say no to just Prince for Kaman. Seems to fill a need for both teams, and be an overall wash with respect to talent, with Detroit losing financially.
John Hollinger
(2:10 PM)
Unfortunately the money owed Kaman is a deal-breaker if it's just Prince going back. Detroit can't take on any money while they're selling the team. That's why I think it has to be Hamilton and Prince for Kaman and Foye, with cash and a pick going back to the Pistons, because that way it doesn't impact the finances for a sale.
Lakers looking to upgrade. Why aren't the Clippers?
Rumor has it that the Lakers and Nuggets are in trade talks involving Carmelo Anthony and Andrew Bynum. They are also in seperate talks with Charlotte involving Ron Artest for either Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace.
I find it hard to believe that the Clippers could not put together a more attractive package to either team. Both Wallace and SJax would be helpful additions. A package involving Kaman should be able to net one of them.
Denver is a bit more complicated due to Carmelo's veto power. I'm sure Melo would sign off on the Lakers. Not certain about the Clippers.
But it would be very disappointing if the Lakers were able to land Gerald Wallace for Artest while the Clippers dither.
The defending champs are trying to get better. Will the Clippers do the same?
Elton Brand: D'Antoni Slayer
Philly played NY back to back. Check out EB's last five games. He scores his season average for the first three, then doubles them in the last two against the Knicks.
Recall the playoff series vs PHX, when Brand averaged 31/10.
Take Leslie Frazier's name off the list (go for Jim Harbaugh)
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DJ #2 in PER
Ha Ha. Gotta love Hollinger.
VDN is now a career sub .500 coach (and other quick thoughts)
Griffin scores 20 in his NBA debut, but even more impressive are the 9 offensive rebounds (14 total). ORebs are about hustle, and that's all this guy does.
Ryan Gomes...yikes. 28 incredibly forgettable minutes. I see a lot of SF minutes in Sool's future.
Kaman 1.5 showed up tonight. Good rebounding, bad shooting.
The Clippers had no clue how to handle Portland's zone defense in the 4th.
Baron Davis was 3-11. So he's in mid-season form.
Griffin and Gordon have to stay healthy for this team to have ANY chance.
Thornton being used ineffectively
The forward is struggling in his role as a role player.
Rasual Butler Mix (I know, I'm surprised to find one, too). I don't have speakers on this computer, so I'm not sure what tune this is set to. Lots of finishing Chris Paul passes. Lots of Clippers in this video on the receiving end. (Note: Apologies to ClipperMize, who posted this and more earlier. See here.
Hollinger Offers Some Rare Clippers Optimism
Los Angeles Clippers
They stunk last season, plus they're the Clippers, which means they could screw this up at a moment's notice. But the offseason certainly pleased the Clipper faithful. First overall pick Blake Griffin should be a double-double guy immediately, and the trade of Zach Randolph for Quentin Richardson gives the Clips cap space for a free-agent run next year. Better yet, they parlayed Richardson into frontcourt depth with a second deal with Minnesota for underrated forward Craig Smith.
But the biggest reason to like the Clips is because they were going to be better anyway. Baron Davis, Chris Kaman and Ricky Davis should all be in much better physical condition for this go-round, and second-year pro Eric Gordon should improve, too. Whether it's enough for a playoff run remains to be seen, but this version of the Clips should keep us entertained.
Simmons on the Clippers future
This Simmons piece is about the NBA in general, but the the beginning focuses heavily on the Clippers.
To paraphrase, he suggests that if the Clippers were to change their name to the Hollywood Stars and get a new coach, they would be an ideal destination for LeBron James and perhaps an additional marquee free agent.
In his view, LeBron would view a nucleus of Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Blake Griffin, and Chris Kaman more favorably than anything the Knicks could put together. Interesting read.
Fox Sports: Griffin will turn Clippers around
Pretty good analysis by Kevin Hench (pretty good for a national writer, anyway). Believes the Clippers young nucleus of Griffin, Gordon and Thornton is as good as any, and that they will turn the franchise around within three years.
ESPN Clippers Trade Buzz (June 24)
Andy Katz: A source with knowledge of the situation said the Clippers wanted to move Chris Kaman but weren't able to do so as of Wednesday. There was nothing imminent for draft night.
The source said that the Clippers will continue to try to move one of three players -- Kaman, Marcus Camby or Zach Randolph -- by the time training camp opens. The source said the only 100 percent certainty is that expected top pick Blake Griffin will be in training camp.
Cavs/Clippers talked about Kaman/Camby, "sources" say
Sources said the Cavs were in serious talks about two other trades that could include multiple teams. One of those teams is believed to be the Los Angeles Clippers, who are dangling big men Chris Kaman and Marcus Camby as they prepare to select Oklahoma forward Blake Griffin with the No. 1 overall pick.
Marc Stein on the Clippers
Why is Marcus Camby said to be available in Clipperland so soon after being frequently described as off-limits leading up to this past season's February trade deadline? Because the Clips have discovered this month that they can't move Zach Randolph or Chris Kaman unless they're also willing to move down from No. 1 in Thursday's draft order. Which they obviously have zero interest in considering.
The Clips also love bargain-find frontcourt man DeAndre Jordan, so Camby -- whose defensive pedigree and expiring $9.7 million salary make him a hugely popular trade target -- is the big man easiest for L.A. to move to make room for the incoming Blake Griffin.
We're told that management also has decreed that assistant coach Kim Hughes will not be let go -- unlike the rest of Mike Dunleavy's staff -- to keep Hughes in place as a potential interim successor to Dunleavy in the unlikely event that the Clips and their under-fire coach/GM part ways during the season. A parting remains unlikely even if Hughes hangs on because, as you've surely heard dozens of times by now, Dunleavy still has two years left on his contract worth more than $10 million.
Hollinger's Draft Rater
John Hollinger does this annually. Blake Griffin is ranked 2nd this year behind Ty Lawson, who scored surprisingly high. Overall, Griffin is the 6th highest rated prospect since 2002, behind Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Mike Conley, & Lawson. Many of the rankings, both past and present, are suspect.
Hollinger offers a semi mea culpa on Eric Gordon's low rating last year: "Gordon is perhaps easier to understand because he was playing hurt at Indiana and his primary skill (shooting) didn't show through statistically, but that doesn't excuse the others."
Whatever.
Ricky Davis opts to return to the Clippers (surprise)
Davis, coming off a year with a terrible case of knee tendinitis, exercised his player option for $2.4 million.
It was a rough year for Davis who played in just 36 games, averaging 6.4 points a game on 33.9% shooting from the field.
The Clippers are curious to see of Davis can rebound with a healthy knee, although it wouldn't be a surprise if Ricky was included in a deal sending out one of LA's "extra" big men (Chris Kaman, Zach Randolph and/or Marcus Camby).
Al Thornton: The NBA's LEAST Productive Player?
Al Thornton had a promising rookie season. He was the second leading scorer among rookies behind Rookie of the Year Kevin Durant, and boasted scoring outbursts of 33 and 39 points after becoming a starter. Many nights he was the Clippers go to scorer down the stretch, and was the only Clipper with the ability to effectively create his own shot. Because he spent a lot of time playing out of position, his rebound rate was below average, and it was no secret that AT's defense needed work. But for a rookie who slipped to #14, Al played well overall.
Perhaps the sophomore jinx is real, because Al Thornton clearly regressed in his second season. On the surface, his numbers improved. He averaged almost 17ppg and shot slightly better from the field. A deeper look, however, puts Al into a whole new light.
Using the incresingly popular Wins Produced metric, Al Thornton was last season's least productive player. Here's the list of the least:
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Rank |
Player |
Team |
Games Played |
Games Started |
Minutes Played |
Wins Produced |
WP48 |
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1 |
Al Thornton |
LA Clippers |
71 |
67 |
2,654 |
-2.88 |
-0.052 |
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2 |
Antoine Wright |
Dallas |
65 |
53 |
1,552 |
-2.70 |
-0.083 |
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3 |
Bobby Brown |
Minnesota-Sacramento |
68 |
2 |
931 |
-2.48 |
-0.128 |
|
4 |
Donte Greene |
Sacramento |
55 |
4 |
725 |
-2.43 |
-0.161 |
|
5 |
Andrea Bargnani |
Toronto |
78 |
59 |
2,453 |
-2.31 |
-0.045 |
|
6 |
Jason Kapono |
Toronto |
80 |
12 |
1,831 |
-2.24 |
-0.059 |
|
7 |
Ricky Davis |
LA Clippers |
36 |
9 |
785 |
-2.09 |
-0.128 |
|
8 |
Al Harrington |
Golden State-New York |
73 |
56 |
2,546 |
-2.01 |
-0.038 |
|
9 |
Glen Davis |
Boston |
76 |
16 |
1,637 |
-1.98 |
-0.058 |
|
10 |
Nick Young |
Washington |
82 |
5 |
1,837 |
-1.94 |
-0.051 |
Other Clippers and former Clippers (Maggette) made the bottom 10%, but Al Thornton held the top, er, bottom spot. This metric is hardly and outlier. Al also managed to have the worst plus/minus of anyone in the NBA. The worst 5::
1. Al Thornton -575.
2. Kevin Durant -502.
3. Spencer Hawes -490.
4. Antawn Jamison -472.
5. Eric Gordon -462. (way to support your teammate, EJ)
Hence all the talk around here of going a different direction at the 3. (Sorry, Al). The point of this is not to pick on Thornton. He is hardly the only one to blame for the Clippers struggles last year (hello, Baron Davis). The point is to maybe convince AT to, well, just, try to be more productive out there.
For those interested in Wins Produced, here is a list of the league leaders by position. Marcus Camby was 13th overall in the NBA, while Zach Randolph was the 13th ranked Power Forward, and 110th ranked player overall. (Note: this metric does tend to skew in favor of centers and point guards. Power Forwards seem to have the most difficult time satisfying the parameters.)
Also, here is the Wins Produced by the Clippers thru 74 games last season. Baron Davis had the most signifigant drop off, but, as a unit, this roster was not poised to win many games anyhow.
Lots of work yet to be done
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