http://blogs.forbes.com/monteburke/2011/05/12/revisiting-the-greatest-sports-deal-of-all-time/

But the most amazing deal for the Silnas. 

The Colonel doesnt look so smart now, or any of the franchise that folded that year, really you couldnt  stall for a few months and get in on the ABA - NBA merger deal.

Did they not have lawyers or something back then?  Perpetuity, really.  Who signs deals for forever. 

Kroenke must shit himself every year he rights a check to the Silnas.

Well here we go.

Offseason 2011, almost as bad as season 2010-11 in terms of mix up and drama.

Kenyon, JR, Nene (if opts out), ely.  FAs

WC, AAA, Forbes RFAs

thats 3 front court players (well 2 really, but our starting 2).

now we did get the Moz, and Kousfos, and we still have Al harrington,  but to think that can get it done in the NBA, is living in a fairy tale land.

Hopefully, we can get Nene to sign and extenison and possibily bring Kenyon back on the cheap, 

either way its time to start thinking about our frontcourt for the future.  Kenyons is faded, and Nene is no spring chicken either. 

available PFs and C -

UFA's 

David West (way to risky in my opinion and doesnt really give the Nugs much, a smaller nene with a little more range)

Glen Davis (ugh, if we wanna get an even smaller david west)

Hilton armstrong, jason collins, etan thomas, and josh powell ( leave em, unless dwight goes LA, then get collins as a dwight stopper bench guy, none are big enough upgrade from Moz and Kouf to waste our time with)

Shaq - old

Krstic - nah, another white stiff but older

troy murphy -  only if we were contending even then he doesnt supply us with the tough inside presence we'll need if kenyon goes, plus he is old.

Kwame - hah

Pryz - interesting, if we kept nene could go the athletic pf defensive C route mephis has, but he is old and injury prone

Kurt thomas - he is still alive?

Tyson chandler -too old and Cuban will overpay

Wilcox - ugh

Hayes - interesting but if paired with nene then a total waste, two undersized guys who dont rebound or defend the rim well.  if we lose nene then possible poor mans replacement.

Yao - seems way too risky for my liking.

McRobert - not bad but if he's our starting frontcourt answer we are in for a lot of lotto balls

Craig smith - tough cld be a good enforcer if kenyon leaves, not starting caliber

theo ratliff, joe smith - pass

Erick Dampier, Juwan Howard, Jamaal Magloire - if we wanted to party like it was 1999

Eddy Curry - hahahahahaha

Humpheries - bet he resigns, like his rebounding and grit, but he isnt really starting caliber either and is just a glorified (cause he bangs kim kardashian) McRoberts

Landry - cldnt be paired with Nene, seems better suited as a 6th man,  but does now how to score in the frontcourt something that is lacking this offseason in the FA market.

Mbenja - eh

Nazr mohammed -  wldnt mind as a back up but we dont need a bench full of 7 footers that cant score we have two in Moz and Kouf.

Darius Songaila, Tony Battie, malik allen - pass

Sammy D - interesting, cld be an excellant pairing with nene, maybe our best FA choice, but i wldnt pay what his last contract cost for him. 12 a year

reggie evans - we need a rebounder, but he is a hole offensively.

frensnko - reunite the kouf

RFAs

Yi -if u call him a frontcourt player, wld give us an all-star tho with all those chinese votes

Joey dorsey - an even poorer mans glen davis

Greg oden - biggest boom or bust FA available (well RFA), if we hit we cld be immediate contendors if not throw away a couple dozen million, i dont even think he is insurable anymore

Thaddeus young, spencer hawes - Id guess they keep young, wldnt really want him he is a sf/pf like gallo and WC. Spencer is another white stiff, but not a tough one.

Jason smith - pass

brendan wright - actually kind of like him, but doesnt really help our size and toughness quotient in the frontcourt as he is a slight pf who plays kinda like a SF

Marc Gasol - if we kept nene, perfect compliment, we'd be memphis but better.  however he is going to be pricey to acquire via an RFA market. 

DeAndre jordan - wld love to get jordans athletisim and Defense out of the Center position and move Nene to pf, still young, inconsistent, lacking offense and not sure how high of a ceiling considering he will get pricey to acquire via RFA< will take a lot for them not to match

Jonas Jerbko - i really like him, but he isnt what we need, another sf/pf type

Jeff green - they are matching him for whatever, since he cost them perkins.

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didnt put option players in since i believe most will accept since the new CBA will be more restriciting (of course our main one is the most likely to not accept his option)

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not much out there really.  true difference makers and potential starters only appear to be Marc Gasol, Greg Oden, and DeAndre Jordan, and maybe Sammy Dalmebert, all RFAs except Sammy D. West depending on how he returns from injury can be a difference maker, dont think he would play well with nene, but as a replacement maybe.

I think our best shot for the future of the nugs may be in the one thing the Nuggets avoid like the plague, the NBA draft.   Nugs pick at 22

Prospects projected for mid-late 1st rd or later PF/Cs

Morris twins - think either would be nice for the Nugs. probably will go too early

Dontas Motiejunas- probably goes too high, but a 7 footer, although a euro one.  good scorer, passer, and smart, but thin and weak.

Faried - a little small, but a great rebounder and shot blocker only 6-8, but atheltic with good hops and wingspan. a tenacious little rebounder we could use.  has asthma tho, will Mile High altitude impact.  compared to Rodman, will probably go a little too high,

Lucas Nogueira - yes, Nene will definately resign then.  big, rebounds, and defends, and we could corner the brazilian market.

Trey Thompkins - not super athletic, but one of the better offense Frontcourt prospects we cld feasible nab, solid rebounder and shot-blocker also.

Justin Harper - stretch 4, id prefer a true paint beast. good in open court tho, which shld be Nugs game with Lawson. labled soft and a subpar rebounder though.

Jon Leuer - good shooting big, but not a big rebounder or athletic specimen. 

JaJuan Johnson - shot blocker, athletic, big, but seems to have a poor bball IQ.

Keith Benson - long atheltic, but labled as cant defend positon, not a good sign, but maybe hess can turn him into a beast.

Jordan Williams - labled as one of the true low post players in the draft, a little undersized at 6-10 tho, strong physical but doesnt have perimeter game or quickness.

Nikola Vucevic - good shooter, decent rebounder, not super athletic, or a good passer.

Jeremy Tyler - ?s skipped High school and college, cant be too smart.  but big and atheltic, and may fall due to choice to not paly american ball currently in japan.

Joffrey Lauvergne - young and athletic, but needs some time. only 19. good shooter, needs strength, french.

Reggie Johnson - has conditioning issues, but a huge center at 300 lbs, only 6 10 tho. good rebounder and scorer in paint, physical.

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after looking at the Fa's and the draft, it may be better for the nugs to try and acquire a PF/C in the draft, maybe even buy another pick, or get another one in a felton/WC trade, and get 2 frontcourt prospects.

hopefully we can resign Nene tho, but we still need to be getting more athletic and young in the frontcourt.

I mean come on really

you think Gallo, Felton, starter, Curry and a 1st is too steep for Melo and Billups.  Dont know what the starter part means but i assume either WC or Fields.

Thats already 11 Cents on the dollar and you want to give less.

This is pathetic.  We might as well just keep Melo.

Screw the Knicks

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2011/02/15/2011-02-15_carmelo_anthony_available_but_knicks_balk_at_request_for_gallinari_felton_starte.html

Rumors on the mill

Wilson Chandler may need offseason ankle surgery for the 3rd year in a row.

(maybe its not quite long enough for a fanpost but i thought it should be discussed as he is the centerpiece to all these proposed Melo deals)

The only good thing about this news is that other teams may not offer much in the offseason for the RFA if he is about to go under the knife again.

If Melo tries to play hardball and says no extension with the Nets, then I think the Nugs should just hold on to him.

The Knicks deal is virtually nothing, Curry, Fields (nice but nothing revolutinary, especially with our SGs), WC (will get real expensive real quick this offseason, plus doesnt want to be in denver, and Gallo a big white dude who is injury prone, doesnt play defense, and again doesnt want to be in denver).  So hmm fields, i think id rather just hold onto Melo and play the season out.  yes we might get nothing,.

Is that so Bad? Honestly,

Im reaching the point where if Walsh and Melo want to play hardball then lets play.

At least it would send a statement and show other players they we are not here to be dicked around with.

Id rather do that then fold like a wet blanket and give the tampering NYKs melo, give melo his money, and get only Landry fields (after WC opts out next year and leaves) and a lotto protected first.

Hmmmm, 

We post everything around here, yet we seem to be missing that Ujiri finally came out and said he is aggressively listening to offers for Melo. 

"It has reached the point that Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri publicly acknowledged to the Denver Post's Woody Paige, of Around The Horn fame, that he's for the first time "listening aggressively" to other teams' offers for Carmelo Anthony, which is the strongest public signal to date that Anthony will be dealt before the Feb. 24 trading deadline." - espn's daily dime

To those that think we should just keep him.

We are good with Melo, but obviously he doesnt want to be here (if Masai is admitting it we're done), we need to get something for him.  As you can see by last nights game (although a win), we are no championship contenders. (43 to Love?)  Keeping Melo and chancing it like Tor and Cle is a bad idea, and will leave us with only a trade exemption if anything at all

THe nugs should make a push for Thabeet.  Griz are shopping him agressively.  It seems the intend on M. Gasol being C of the future meaning they will match any offer for him this offseason. (obviously we'd all prefer M. Gasol here but that doesnt seem likely).

 Thabeets would be a nice defensive tower and would allow us to move nene to PF while he was on the court. 

something like Xavier Henry and Thabeet for JR smith would work slary wise and probably talent wise, as Grizz are looking for a starting SG, and Nugs are looking for youth and size

Got this tidbit from the SI power rankings:

Even with a supposed sage like Chauncey Billups as floor general, the Nuggets can frequently look like a sloppy, heedless team. But, in fact, their offensive attack is plenty smart: They lead the NBA in shots attempted at the rim (which, of course, are the easiest ones to make) by a wide margin and rank sixth in three-point attempts while converting those threes with slightly above-average accuracy. That's how they rank sixth in offensive efficiency despite lots of clanking from Billups (34.4 percent shooting), J.R. Smith (38.8 percent), Al Harrington (41.3 percent) and Ty Lawson (44.1 percent and only 28 percent from three-point range).

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/britt_robson/11/23/power.rankings/index.html#ixzz16Csy7100

Just Think how good the O will be once those shots start falling. 

Trade that needs to happen ASAP.

Denver trade: JR smith, and Chris Andersen

Denver receives: Sammy Dalmebert.

Numbers work.  Dalembert is a true defense center to play behind nene (who can do the scoring).  plus he is on a 13 mil expiring deal. Plus we can get out of Birdmans contract.

Sac, gets JR who supposedly they have wanted, and a sammy d replacement. 

obviously this wont help solve our Melodrama (sammy isnt going to be enough), but i think our team becomes a lot better and more conventional with a true C out there, shift Nene to PF, and move kenyon ASAP (probably not until the deadline no one will want him before then).  Plus we lose some long term salary for the post-melo new CBA world.

Is Minny really benching Love down the stretch in a clsoe game after they shipped AL Jeff away to make room for him? Did they also go get Beasley and Tolliver in the offseason?

Hmmm

Anyhting is possible with Khan and Rambis so  (they did give AL Jeff up for Cheap)

What about

Den Gives: Melo, Balkman

Den Gets: Kevin Love, Danillo Gallinari,  Eddy Curry, and rights to swap Minny 1st the next 2 years (should be high both years)

Minny Gives: Kevin Love, Kosta Koufos, the rights to swap to Den for next 2 years

Minny Gets: Anthony Randolph, Toney Douglas, and Renaldo Balkman

Knicks Give: Danillo Gallinari, Toney Douglas, Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry

Kincks Get: Kosta Koufos, and Melo

To me this would be great Den, Keivn Love is a Top rebounder in the league (better than an old AK), young and has good potential, plus we'd get scoring and 3pt shooting in Danillo, and the rights to swap 1st with Minny which have a great chance of being quite high.

FOr Minny i dont really get it but I dont really get anything Minny does.  They drafted Rubio, Flynn, and Lawson and still need a PG, Toney could be that guy.  They traded al Jeff away cause they didnt like his style and cause it was too similar to K Loves, then get Beasley and Tolliver?, i dunno but if they dont like that style that Jeff plays which is similar to Loves, maybe they are looking to get back to an athletic PF type like when they had KG, randolph could be that guy.

Knicks': this is easy this is what they have been praying for.

Im not entirely happy wiht it, but i think its better than Favors and AK. not sure if its better than Iggy and Randoplph but love is an amazing rebounder top %'s in the league.

Let me know what you think?

and if its just to say nooo way from the Minny end, just remember this is the T-wolves.

haha,

It seems everyone is quiet over here.  Good reason its a depressing run up to the basketball season.

but even though this is shaping out to be an awful year im still a diehard Nugs fan.   And since basketball news is coming slow right now, ill just make my own hypotheticals up.

So im trying out a Chi-Den-LAC 3-way trade

Den

Trades:  Melo, 2nd

Receives : Chris Kaman, Taj Gibson, Aminu, James Johnson  (and the rights to swap 1sts with LAC)

Chi

Trade: Deng, Gibson, Omar Asik and James Johnson, 1st

Receives: Carmelo Anthony, and a Den 2nd.  

LAC

Trade:  Chris Kaman, Aminu (the rights to swap 1st with Den)

Receives:  Deng, Omar Asik and a Chi 1st.

LAC - Deng would be a great athletic, defensive complement between Blake Griffen and Eric Gordan, the cost of Kaman is a bit high but the offset 1st would make that easier to swallow even if a Rose, Noah, Melo team is never in the lottory

Den - Gets a C in Kaman, can move Nene to PF, gets a nice PF prospect in Taj, making it easier to move Kenyon at the deadline, and gets 2 young SF prospects one a scorer and one an athletic def type.

Chi - gets melo and forms their own big 3 (4 if you count boozer), the price isnt cheap but getting a superstar isnt supposed to be cheap.

Alright here we go again

Den trades:  Melo and Kenyon

for

Orl's :  Rashard Lewis ,  Marcin Gortat,  Mickeal Pietrus, Daniel Orton, and a 2012 1st.

I know Orl hasnt been a Melo destination but would he really turn down an extenison to play with Dwight?

Gortat is disgruntled in Orl but would be great next to nene,

 lewis contract is long and expensive (might be the sticking pt to nugs not wanting it but Lewis, Peitrus would be a nice 1-2 offense - defense punch at the 3,

 and we'd get a prospect in Orton, who can play PF/C,

and a 2012 first.

Orl would become Heat killers. 

Kenyon D's up Lebron very well, and Melo would provide the firepower they always wished they could get from rashard and vince.

obviously our team gets worse ( is there really any way to get better losing a superstar?), but i think we stay competative and get some much needed size.  who knows we might not even be all that bad if rashard plays well.

Jamison seems out of place on the Cavs as they are now rebuilding.

Kenyon doesnt want to play for us and JR is a nutcase,

How about

Kenyon Martin, Jr Smith (both expiring)

for

Antwan Jamison, Sideshow Bob (Varajeo), and a Cle 1st  (2012? maybe)(only top 5 protected or unprotected)  Cle shaves long term contracts and gets a year to decide if JR smith can be their go to scorer.

Den gets a Denfensive C, and some vetern frontcourt help.  

Personally i dont think its great, but it seems doable, and would show Melo we are interested in making moves.  Plus a Cle 1st would be tasty as they are bound to be awful for the next few season

Philly:  Gets Kenyon, JR, and Marvin Williams, humphries, bibby :  39.3 Mil in

Philly sends Brand, Lou Will, Iggy, Nocioni : 40 out

ATL gets : Iggy, Harris, and Troy Murphy  :  33.3 in

Atl sends : Josh SMith, jamal Crawford, Marvin will:  35.2

NJ gets :  Brand, Melo, Lou Will :  38.1

NJ sends:  Troy Murphy, harris, Favors, Damion Jones,humphries, outlaw : 36.2

Den gets:  Nocioni, Favors, Jamal Crawford, Josh Smith, damion jones, outlaw: 41.6

Dens sends: Melo, kenyon, JR :  40.3 

Philly gets expiring contracts, gets rid of brand and gets a little talent in JR and Marvin

ATl gets iggy, harris, and murphy sick starting 5 of Harris, Joe J, Iggy, Horford, and Murphy, might have to give up a pick also

NJ gets a harris replacement in lou will, a Pf and superstar Melo

Den gets Josh smith, Favors, jamal for a year to replace some scoring  and hopefully Damion after that and complementary pieces to make the money work

Well here we go.  It looks bad folks.  A lot of it is just media inspired fuel since they are bored with no football, basketball, or lebron to discuss.  But in myths,  usually lies some truth.   So if this is true and he has expressed this desire to Stan.  We have no choice but to trade him.  Waiting until summer and getting only a trade exemption would be awful.

So as sad as i am to say this what ae your thoughts on

Anthony Randolph - Danillo Gallinari - Eddy Curry (expiring to make salaries work)

for Melo.

Id like some picks also but i dont think the knicks have any to offer.

obviously we are taking 20 cents on the dollar here, but at least randolph and gallinari have some talent.  we wouldnt be championhsip contender but we could make the playoffs and we'd have a young core in Lawson, affalo/JR, Danillo, Anthony randolph, and Nene.  plus a lot of money once curry and kenyon come off the books.

Id like some picks also but i dont think the knicks have any to offer.

its sad  but id rather anthony randolph and danillo then a 14 Mil trade exemption in July.

Nugs: Chris Paul, Emeka Okafor (giving 24.7 in expiring and a 1st getting 26.3)

Hornets: Kenyon martin (16.5 expiring), Spencer Hawes, Andre Iguodala (giving 32.7 and a trade exemption getting 31.9)

76ers: Troy Murphy and a Nugs 1st (giving 15.2 getting 11.9 and a 3 mil trade exception)

Pacers: JR Smith, Ty Lawson, Posey. (giving 11.9 getting 14.8)

hornets clear 2 bad contracts and get a stud to replace CP3.
Philly clears the way for turner, gets a nice outside game PF and a 1st
Pacers get their PG and some scoring
Nugs get the prize and a big which they need. Move nene to PF play Billups at the 2 often.

i know im dreamin.

maybe IND could swap the NUgs first with Philly since they are getting a lot for Troy.