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Week 11 Predictions

talonk — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:59:30 -0000

Another week done, another week of picks ... Thankfully only a few more weeks of gumming up WWAHT ;)

ACC

Wins: VA Tech, GA Tech, Clemson, Miami FL, Fla St, BC

Losses: Maryland, Duke, NC St, NC, Wake Forest, Virginia

Big12

Wins: Iowa St, Okla St, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Kansas St

Losses: Colorado, Tex Tech, Tex A&M, Baylor, Kansas, Missouri

Big East

Wins: Rutgers, Cincinnati, Pitt, Syracuse

Losses: South Fla, West VA, Louisville

Bye: UConn

Independents

Wins: Army, Navy

Losses: Notre Dame

Big10

Wins: Minnesota, Ohio St, Penn St, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Mich St,

Losses: Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Purdue

Pac10

Wins: Arizona, USC, Ore St, UCLA, Oregon

Losses: Cal, Stanford, Washington, Wash St, AZ St

SEC

Wins: Arkansas, Tennessee, Auburn, Kentucky, Alabama, Florida, LSU

Losses: Georgia, Ole Miss, Vandy, Miss St, South Carolina

C-USA

Wins: Houston, UAB, SMU, Tulane, Marshall, East Carolina

Losses: UCF, Memphis, UTEP, Rice, South Miss, Tulsa

MAC

Wins: Ohio U, Cent Mich, Bowling Green, Nor Illinois, Temple, West Mich

Losses: Buffalo, Toledo, Miami OH, Ball St, Akron, East Mich

Bye: Kent St

MWC

Wins: BYU, Air Force, TCU, Wyoming

Losses: New Mexico, UNLV, Utah, SDSU

Bye: Colo St

Sun Belt

Wins: LA-Monroe, LA-Lafayette, FAU, FIU

Losses: Troy, West Kentucky, Mid Tenn St, Ark St, Nor Texas

WAC

Wins: Boise St, Nevada, Utah St, Hawaii

Losses: LA Tech, Idaho, San Jose St, Fresno St, New Mexico St

Bowl Guesstimates Post Week 9

talonk — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:19:33 -0000

Doubtful I get half of these right, but oh well here goes my best guess as to where everyone plays this postseason.

Only 7 win team without a bowl would be Kent St at 7-5. The replacements are my best guesses for those conferences that cannot fill all their spots. I have no idea the pecking order of how those bowls would determine who goes where.

National Championship Game: Alabama 13-0 vs Texas 13-0 (BCS #1 vs BCS #2)

Orange Bowl: GA Tech 12-1 vs Cincinnati 12-0 (ACC #1 vs BCS [pick-Big East champ])

Fiesta Bowl: Penn St 11-1 vs USC 10-2 (Big 12 champ replacement vs at-large #1)

Sugar Bowl: Florida 12-1 vs TCU 12-0 (SEC champ replacement vs at-large #2)

Rose Bowl: Iowa 11-1 vs Oregon 11-1 (Big10 #1 vs Pac10 #1)

GMAC: Mid Tenn 8-4 St vs Central Michigan 11-2 (ACC #9 replacement vs MAC #1)

International: Rutgers 9-3 vs Ohio U 8-4 (BigEast #5 vs MAC #3)

Liberty: Houston 12-1 vs Ole Miss 7-5 (CUSA #1 vs SEC #6/7)

Cotton: Nebraska 8-5 vs Auburn 8-4 (Big12 #2 vs SEC #3/4 [West champ])

Alamo: Mich St 6-6 vs Okla St 9-3 (Big 10 #5 vs Big 12 #4)

PapaJohns: West Virginia 9-3 vs Miss St 6-6 (Big East #4 vs SEC #9)

Gator: Miami FL 10-2 vs Notre Dame 9-3 (ACC #3 vs Big East #2/Notre Dame)

Capitol One: LSU 10-2 vs Wisconsin 10-2 (SEC #2 vs Big 10 #2)

Outback: Ohio St 9-3 vs South Carolina 7-5 (Big 10 #3 vs SEC #3/4 [East champ])

Chick-Fil-A: Tennessee 7-5 vs Clemson 9-4 (SEC #5 vs ACC #2)

Insight: Iowa St 7-5 vs Northwestern 6-6 (Big 12 #6 vs Big 10 #6)

Sun: California 8-4 vs Kansas St 7-5 (Pac 10 #3 vs Big 12 #5)

Armed Forces: Air Force 7-5 vs Marshall 8-4 (MWC #3 vs CUSA #3)

Holiday: Oergon St 8-4 vs Oklahoma 9-3 (Pac 10 #2 vs Big 12 #3)

Texas: Texas A&M 7-5 vs Navy 9-4 (Big 12 #8 vs CUSA/Navy)

Humanitarian: Boise St 13-0 vs Northern Illinois 7-5 (WAC #1 vs MWC #5 replacement)

Sports: VA Tech 9-3 vs Minnesota 7-5 (ACC #4 vs Big 10 #4)

Eaglebank: LA-Monroe 8-4 vs SMU 7-5 (ACC #8 vs Army/CUSA #6)
Independence: Kentucky 6-6 vs Texas Tech 7-5 (SEC #8 vs Big12 #7)

Music City: Boston College 9-3 vs Georgia 6-6 (ACC #5 vs SEC #6/7)

Emerald: Arizona 8-4 vs Florida St 6-6 (Pac 10 #4 vs ACC #7)

Meinecke: Pitt 9-3 vs North Carolina 7-5 (Big East #3 vs ACC #6)

Pizza: Temple 9-4 vs Michigan 6-6 (MAC #2 vs Big 10 #7)

Hawaii: Idaho 9-3 vs East Carolina 7-6 (WAC #2 vs CUSA #2)

Poinsettia: Utah 9-3 vs Bowling Green 7-5 (MWC #2 vs Pac 10 #6 replacement)

Las Vegas: BYU 10-2 vs Stanford 6-6 (MWC #1 vs Pac 10 #5)

New Orleans: Southern Miss 7-5 vs Troy 8-4 (CUSA #4 vs Sun Belt #1)

St. Petersburg: South Florida 8-4 vs UCF 7-5 (Big East #6 vs CUSA #5)

New Mexico: Nevada 8-4 vs San Diego St 6-6 (WAC #3 vs MWC #4)

Had to slide Big East teams down one notch when Gator takes Notre Dame.

Pettrey has surgery on MCL

talonk — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:53:20 -0000

Pettrey has surgery on MCL

Looks like Barclay is the guy for the next 3 big games. Buchanan is also a possibility.

Pettrey may be back for the bowl game.

Week 10 Predictions

talonk — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:07:49 -0000

And onto another week of picks. More midweek games starting this week and through the end of the season. Also, seems to be Sunday games the next few weeks. That really makes my "rankings" a bit more difficult, so I may have to wait until Sun nite to crank those numbers instead.

ACC

Wins: VA Tech, GA Tech, NC St, Clemson, Miami FL, NC

Losses: Wake Forest, Maryland, Fla St, Virginia, Duke

Bye: BC

Big12

Wins: Tex A&M, Okla St, Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas

Losses: Colorado, Iowa St, Baylor, Nebraska, Kansas St

Bye: Tex Tech

Big East

Wins: Cincinnati, Pitt, West VA

Losses: UConn, Syracuse, Louisville

Bye: Rutgers, South Fla

Independents

Wins: Notre Dame

Losses: Navy, Army

Big10

Wins: Wisconsin, Mich St, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, Penn St

Losses: Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio St

Pac10

Wins: Washington, Arizona, Oregon, Cal, USC

Losses: UCLA, Wash St, Stanford, Ore St, AZ St

SEC

Wins: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Miss St

Losses: LSU, South Carolina, Vandy

Bye: Ole Miss

C-USA

Wins: UAB, SMU, UTEP, Houston

Losses: East Carolina, UCF, Memphis, Rice, Tulane, Tulsa

Bye: South Miss, Marshall

MAC

Wins: Bowling Green, Temple, Nor Illinois, Kent St

Losses: West Mich, Buffalo, Miami OH, East Mich, Akron

Bye: Ball St, Ohio U, Cent Mich, Toledo

MWC

Wins: Air Force, BYU, TCU, Utah, UNLV

Losses: Wyoming, SDSU, New Mexico, Colo St

Sun Belt

Wins: LA-Monroe, Mid Tenn St, Troy, LA-Lafayette

Losses: FAU, Nor Texas, FIU, West Kentucky, Ark St

WAC

Wins: Boise St, Hawaii, Idaho, Nevada

Losses: LA Tech, Utah St, Fresno St, San Jose St

Bye: New Mexico St

Week 9 Predictions

talonk — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:13:47 -0000

A few tough matchups this week.

Would love to see Georgia pull of the upset (not that I picked that) and I did take Oregon at home vs USC which will probably come back to bite me.

Onto the picks ......

ACC

Wins: VA Tech, Fla St, Clemson, Miami FL, Virginia, GA Tech

Losses: NC, NC St, BC, Wake Forest, Duke

Bye: Maryland

Big12

Wins: Nebraska, Missouri, Iowa St, Tex Tech, Oklahoma, Okla St,

Losses: Baylor, Colorado, Tex A&M, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas,

Big East

Wins: West VA, UConn, Cincinnati, Louisville

Losses: South Fla, Rutgers, Syracuse

Bye: Pitt

Independents

Wins: Navy, Notre Dame

Bye: Army

Big10

Wins: Ohio St, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, Penn St, Mich St

Losses: Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota

Pac10

Wins: Cal, Ore St, USC

Losses: Wash St, AZ St, UCLA, Oregon

Bye: Arizona, Stanford, Washington

SEC

Wins: Auburn, Florida, Arkansas, Miss St, Tennessee, LSU

Losses: Vandy, Ole Miss, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Bye: Alabama

C-USA

Wins: East Carolina, Houston, SMU, UTEP, Marshall

Losses: Tulane, Memphis, South Miss, Tulsa, UAB, UCF

Bye: Rice

MAC

Wins: Cent Mich, Ohio U, Nor Illinois, Kent St, Toledo,

Losses: Temple, East Mich, Ball St, Akron, West Mich, Miami OH,

Bye: Buffalo, Bowling Green

MWC

Wins: Air Force, TCU, SDSU, Utah

Losses: Colo St, UNLV, New Mexico, Wyoming

Bye: BYU

Sun Belt

Wins: LA-Lafayette, FAU, Nor Texas, Troy

Losses: Ark St, FIU, Mid Tenn St, West Kentucky, LA-Monroe

WAC

Wins: Boise St, Nevada, Idaho, Fresno St

Losses: New Mexico St, San Jose St, Hawaii, LA Tech, Utah St

Alternate solutions

talonk — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:23:23 -0000

[ Great work! I liked the work here and at We Will Always have Tempe, Don't let my pragmatic critique of this design tell you otherwise. You are on the front page after all! ]

utesfan,

Been lurking the site for a few weeks now, and I like the passion and dedication that you have. Not sure how the fluctuation from year to year (5 teams one year, 7 the next, etc) would really be able to be supported. But there are alternate solutions.

I do not want to cut and paste my Dream Scenario onto your site, because it is a slightly different take on revamping college football altogether, but a lot of the concepts could still apply. But I would love your insight and comments on it nonetheless.

But in my opinion, the BCS can still work in a playoff system, but 8 is not enough, it would require 12 or 16 teams. I believe, that if you win a conference title, that you have the right to play in the tournament. No matter if it would be a North Carolina/Sam Houston State 1 vs 16 seed basketball-type scrimmage.

If only 12 teams are used, the Top 4 from the BCS rankings would get the early bye and 12 would play 5, 11 would play 6, etc. However, if only 12 teams are used, that only allows one at-large team, and we all know that would never fly from the 6 BCS commisioners. So, we are left with a 16 team playoff, with no first round byes, 11 conference champions, and 5 at large berths. [Notre Dame, Army and Navy, can only get an at large by being in BCS Top 16].

Anyways, the BCS formula would be used to qualify the 5 at-large teams, and seed the 1-16 teams. I know the current release only gives the Top 25, but there must be a way to do it to also seed Troy, Central Michigan, Houston, etc. Most likely they would be the 14, 15, 16 seed, but they still need to be slotted correctly. This would also allow, say the SEC Chamionship game loser this year, to still get a #5 seed instead of relegating it to the #12 seed. Also, using the BCS rankings would still also push teams to schedule quality opponents. If Penn St finishes 11-1 and is an at-large, they may end up in the 9-16 range because of their out of conference (OOC) this year, but if they had played Pitt, they might have squeezed into the Top 8 and into a home game (See below).

The one change that would need to be done to accomodate 16 teams would be to start the season one week earlier or to eliminate the byes that most conferences have. Personally I think starting one week earlier, is better because it still gives some flexibility in scheduling, but I will leave that to the powers that be.

The reason to start one week earlier would be to finish all conference games and the conference championship games by the last week in November. I know this would affect the Thanksgiving holiday, but a good many teams already participate in this weekend already. Another option would be to eliminate the conference championship games since the playoff games/bowls would rake in just as much $$, but I seriously doubt those conferences give up that $$ grab.

This would allow the first round of the playoffs to start in the first weekend in December, at the higher seeds home venue (ie similar to early round NIT in basketball). This would also hopefully allow us to see some matchups in the north for once late in the season we normally wouldn't get to see. Can you imagine the intensity of a playoff game in Columbus, Ann Arbor, Morgantown, etc?

Round 2 takes place in the 3rd weekend in December at four bowls to be determined (The locations of the defunct conference chamionship games could also be used). There are existing bowls that weekend already, but I suspect that the Cotton, Gator, etc would love to be able to host one of the four quarterfinal games. My best suggestion would be to spread the 4 around the country (West, Midwest, South, Texas).

Round 3 (semifinals) would take place in 2 of the 4 current BCS bowls on a rotating basis year to year, while the other 2 BCS bowls host the losers from round 2 in consolation matches.

Ideally, the championship game takes place two weeks later at the rotating venue (like the system already taking place), but keeping it one week after is also possible if thats what the BCS wants.

Finally, all the other bowls, still operate as they did before. You can leave the affiliations as they are (minus the four bowls leaving for the quarterfinals). This would also eliminate some of the current 6-6 teams from the bowls, but I don't think that is that bad. If you can't win 7, then you shouldn't qualify anyways. Additionally, teams that get eliminated in Round 1, would still qualify for bowls as before.

I think this scenario is doable, but of course the commisioners will not go for it.

Let me know what you think utesfan.

Acquiring the Cleveland Indians 1948 World Championship Team

talonk — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:48:51 -0000

A companion piece to my 1920 research ….

In this dreary season, why not look back upon a better, gentler time; Cleveland’s last championship baseball team. The following is one man’s best guess as to how that team was acquired.

Prior to 1936 season - SP Bob Feller signed as an amateur free agent from the Van Meter High School, Iowa

Prior to 1937 season - 3B Ken Keltner acquired in a working agreement from the Milwaukee Brewers (American Association-AA Cle affiliate)

Prior to 1938 season - SS Lou Boudreau signed as an amateur free agent from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Prior to 1938 season - C Jim Hegan signed as an amateur free agent from the Lynn, Massachusetts

Prior to 1938 season - SP Bob Lemon signed as an amateur free agent from the Woodrow Wilson High School, Long Beach, California

Prior to 1938 season - 2B Ray Mack signed as an amateur free agent from the Case Western Reserve University

Prior to 1939 season - OF Hank Edwards signed as an amateur free agent from the Elmwood Place, Ohio

Prior to 1939 season - SP Allie Reynolds signed as an amateur free agent from the Oklahoma State University

Prior to 1939 season - RP Steve Gromek signed as an amateur free agent from the St. Ladislaus High School, Hamtramck, Michigan

Prior to 1939 season - SP Red Embree signed as an amateur free agent from the El Monte, California

Prior to 1940 season - RP Ed Klieman acquired in unknown transaction from Cincinnati Reds (NL)

March 1940 - RP Bryan Stephens signed as free agent from the Henderson Oilers (East Texas League-C Det affiliate)

Prior to 1941 season - OF Pat Seerey signed as an amateur free agent from the Wilburton, Oklahoma

Prior to 1941 season - C Joe Tipton signed as an amateur free agent from the McCaysville, Georgia

Prior to 1941 season - C Ralph Weigel signed as free agent from the Lima Pandas (Ohio State League-D)

Prior to 1941 season - OF Joe Frazier signed as an amateur free agent from the Liberty, North Carolina

Prior to 1942 season - 1B Eddie Robinson purchased from Baltimore Orioles (International-AA Cle affiliate)

Prior to 1942 season - 3B Al Rosen signed as an amateur free agent from the University of Florida

Prior to 1942 season - SS Ray Boone signed as an amateur free agent from the Hoover High School, San Diego, California

Prior to 1942 season - RP Ernest Groth signed as an amateur free agent from the Beaver Falls Pennsylvania

Prior to 1942 season - RP Mike Garcia signed as an amateur free agent from the Visalia High School, Visalia, California

Prior to 1943 season - C Sherm Lollar signed as free agent from Pittsburgh State University

Prior to 1945 season - OF Dick Kokos signed as free agent from Chicago, Illinois

October 2, 1945 - SP Don Black purchased from Philadelphia Athletics (AL)

Prior to 1942 season - LF Dale Mitchell signed as an amateur free agent from the University of Oklahoma

Prior to 1942 season - C Ray Murray signed as a free agent from the Tarboro Orioles (Coastal Plain League-D)

July 2, 1946 - RP Les Webber claimed on waivers from Brooklyn Dodgers (NL)

October 11, 1946 - SP Allie Reynolds traded to New York Yankees (AL) for 2B Joe Gordon

November 1, 1946 - RP Lyman Linde selected in Rule 5 draft from Chicago White Sox (AL)

December 6, 1946 - 2B Ray Mack and C Sherm Lollar traded to New York Yankees (AL) for OF Hal Peck, SP Gene Bearden and RP Al Gettel

March 2, 1947 - OF Catfish Metkovich purchased from Boston Red Sox (AL)

July 2, 1947 - RF Larry Doby signed as a free agent from the Newark Eagles (Negro League)

November 11, 1947 - RP Bill Kennedy selected in Rule 5 draft from Boston Red Sox (AL)

November 20, 1947 - OF Joe Frazier, RP Bryan Stephens and OF Dick Kokos traded to St Louis Browns (AL) for OF/1B Wally Judnich and RP Bob Muncrief

December 9, 1947 - OF Catfish Metkovich traded to St Louis Browns (AL) for IF Johnny Berardino

December 11, 1947 - SP Red Embree traded to New York Yankees (AL) for OF Allie Clark

January 1, 1948 - C Ralph Weigel traded to Chicago White Sox (AL) for CF Thurman Tucker

April 3, 1948 - CL Russ Christopher purchased from Philadelphia Athletics (AL)

April 12, 1948 - RP Butch Wensloff purchased from New York Yankees (AL)

June 2, 1948 - RP Al Gettel and OF Pat Seerey traded to Chicago White Sox (AL) for OF Bob Kennedy

June 15, 1948 - RP Bill Kennedy traded to St Louis Browns (AL) for SP Sam Zoldak

July 7, 1948 - RP Satchel Paige signed as a free agent from the Kansas City Monarchs (Negro League)

Many thanks must be given to all the data at Baseball Reference. Loads of good info located on that site. BRef has a few transactions that are noted as purchases from minor league affiliates, however, I think most of them were amateur free agent signings, and the “purchase” was them being added to the 40/25 man roster. But I left the transaction as a purchase since that is how BRef has them defined.

The amateur free agent signings are also guesses (tried to find high schools/colleges for most of them), but none of those players ever appeared in a minor league game before debuting with the Indians.

Week 8 Predictions

talonk — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:25:47 -0000

Not a whole lot of upsets to choose from this week. But that probably means there will be a lot more and my numbers will suffer because of it.

C'est la vie ...

ACC

Wins: NC, Miami FL, GA Tech, Duke

Losses: Fla St, Clemson, Virginia, Maryland, BC, Wake Forest

Bye: NC St, VA Tech

Big12

Wins: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas St, Nebraska, Okla St, Tex Tech

Losses: Missouri, Kansas, Colorado, Iowa St, Baylor, Tex A&M

Big East

Wins: Rutgers, Pitt, West VA, Syracuse, Cincinnati

Losses: South Fla, UConn, Louisville

Independents

Wins: Notre Dame, Navy,

Losses: Army

Big10

Wins: Indiana, Ohio St, Purdue, Penn St, Mich St

Losses: Northwestern, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa

Bye: Wisconsin

Pac10

Wins: Oregon, Cal, Arizona, USC, Stanford

Losses: Washington, Wash St, UCLA, Ore St, AZ St

SEC

Wins: Arkansas, Alabama, South Carolina, LSU, Florida

Losses: Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vandy, Auburn, Miss St

Bye: Georgia

C-USA

Wins: UTEP, Marshall, UCF, South Miss, Houston

Losses: Tulsa, UAB, Rice, Tulane, SMU

Bye: East Carolina, Memphis

MAC

Wins: Cent Mich, Nor Illinois, East Mich, Ohio U, West Mich, Toledo

Losses: Akron, Bowling Green, Miami OH, Ball St, Kent St, Buffalo, Temple

MWC

Wins: Colo St, Utah, TCU, UNLV

Losses: SDSU, Air Force, BYU, New Mexico

Bye: Wyoming

Sun Belt

Wins: LA-Monroe, Mid Tenn St, Troy, LA-Lafayette, Ark St

Losses: West Kentucky, Nor Texas, FAU, FIU

WAC

Wins: LA Tech, Nevada, New Mexico St, Boise St

Losses: Utah St, Idaho, Fresno St, Hawaii

Bye: San Jose St

Spawn of Dybzinski, Fosse, Heidemann and Brohamer

talonk — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:37:09 -0000

Edit: Funny the Reflecting the Cliff Lee trade mentioned the Justice trails, etc. I had just completed the following update earlier today.

Normally I only do this post once per season, but with the plethora of trades this summer, I thought I’d provide an update. And I think I'll start posting at the end of the season now instead for this very reason and that the rosters are much more stable since nobody is moving around (duh).

I have included compensation draft picks as being more than one degree as the Indians obtained that pick based on a player they formally held rights to. Also, when I have identified a free agent year, it is the year they signed for (i.e. December 05 would be 2006). Additionally, whenever I could not find confirmation of an amateur free agent signing, the year defaults to their first appearance. [Notes: aFA = amateur free agent, mFA = minor league free agent]

Cleveland Indians

One Degree

Draft 2003: Aaron Laffey (16)

Draft 2004: Jeremy Sowers (1), Scott Lewis (3) (injured), Chris Gimenez (19), Wyatt Toregas (24), Tony Sipp (45)

Draft 2005: Trevor Crowe (1)

aFA 1999: Jhonny Peralta

aFA 2001: Fausto Carmona

aFA 2002: Rafael Perez

aFA 2003: Niuman Romero

FA 2009: Kerry Wood (originally drafted 1 by Cubs in 1995)

mFA 2009: Mike Gosling (originally drafted 2 by Diamondbacks in 1995), Tomo Ohka (originally purchased by Red Sox in 1998)

Purchase 2009: Jose Veras (NYY - originally 1998 aFA by Devil Rays)

Two Degrees

David Huff

1. Draft 2006 (1) compensation for Bob Howry

2. Howry - FA 2004

Justin Masterson (originally drafted 2 by Red Sox in 2006)

1. Trade 2009 Red Sox with Nick Hagadone and Bryan Price for Victor Martinez

2. Martinez - aFA 1996

Adam Miller (injured)

1. Draft 2003 (1) supplemental for Jim Thome

2. Thome - Draft 1989 (13)

Anthony Reyes (originally drafted 15 by Cardinals in 2003) (injured)

1. Trade 2008 Cardinals for Luis Perdomo

2. Perdomo - aFA 2003

Asdrubal Cabrera (originally 2002 aFA by Mariners)

1. Trade 2006 Mariners for Eduardo Perez

2. Perez - FA 2006

Jamey Carroll (originally drafted 14 by Expos in 1996)

1. Trade 2008 Rockies for Sean Smith

2. Smith - Draft 2001 (16)

Michael Brantley (originally drafted 7 by Brewers in 2005)

1. Trade Brewers 2008 (PTBNL) with Matt Laporta, Rob Bryson and Zach Jackson for CC Sabathia

2. Sabathia - Draft 1998 (1)

Matt LaPorta (originally drafted 1 by Brewers in 2007)

1. Trade Brewers 2008 with Rob Bryson, Zach Jackson and Michael Brantley (PTBNL) for CC Sabathia

2. Sabathia - Draft 1998 (1)

Grady Sizemore (originally drafted 3 by Expos in 2000)

1. Trade 2002 Expos with Jeff Stevens, Brandon Phillips and Cliff Lee for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew

2. A. Colon - aFA 1993

B. Drew - Draft 1997 (1)

Travis Hafner (originally drafted 31 by Rangers in 1996)

1. Trade 2003 Rangers with Aaron Myette for Einar Diaz and Ryan Drese

2. A. Diaz - aFA 1990

B. Drese - Draft 1998 (5)

Three Degrees

Carlos Carrasco (originally aFA by Phillies in 2001)

1. Trade 2009 Phillies with Jason Donald, Lou Marson and Jason Knapp for Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco

2. A. Francisco - Draft 2002 (5)

B. Lee - Trade 2002 Expos with Jeff Stevens, Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew

3. See Grady Sizemore details 2

Lou Marson (originally drafted 4 by Phillies in 2004)

1. Trade 2009 Phillies with Jason Donald, Carlos Carrasco and Jason Knapp for Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco

2 to 3: See Carlos Carrasco details 2 thru 3

Shin-Soo Choo (originally 2000 aFA by Mariners)

1. Trade 2006 Mariners with Shawn Nottingham (PTBNL) for Ben Broussard

2. Broussard - Trade 2002 Reds for Russell Branyan

3. Branyan - Draft 1994 (7)

Five Degrees

Chris Perez (originally drafted 1 by Cardinals in 2006)

1. Trade 2009 Cardinals with Jess Todd (PTBNL) for Mark DeRosa

2. DeRosa - Trade 2009 Cubs for Jeff Stevens, John Gaub, and Christopher Archer

3. A. Stevens - Trade 2006 Reds for Brandon Phillips

B. Gaub - Draft 2006 (5)

C. Archer - Draft 2006 (21)

4. Phillips - Trade with Jeff Stevens, Cliff Lee and Grady Sizemore for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew

5. See Grady Sizemore details 2

Jess Todd (originally drafted 2 by Cardinals in 2007)

1. Trade 2009 Cardinals (PTBNL) with Chris Perez for Mark DeRosa

2 to 5: See Chris Perez details 2 thru 5

Kelly Shoppach (originally drafted 2 by Red Sox in 2001)

1. Trade 2006 Red Sox with Andy Marte, Guillermo Mota and Randy Newsom (PTBNL) for Coco Crisp, Josh Bard and David Riske

2. A. Crisp - Trade 2002 Cardinals with Luis Garcia (PTBNL) for Chuck Finley

B. Bard - Trade 2001 Rockies with Jody Gerut for Jacob Cruz

C. Riske - Draft 1996 (56)

3. A. Finley - FA 1999

B. Cruz - Trade 1998 Giants with Steve Reed for Shawon Dunston, Jose Mesa and Alvin Morman

4. A. Dunston - FA 1998

B. Mesa - Trade 1992 Orioles for Kyle Washington

C. Morman - Trade 1997 Astros for Jose Cabrera

5. A. Washington - mFA 1991

B. Cabrera - aFA 1990

Andy Marte (originally 2000 aFA by Braves)

1. Trade 2006 Red Sox with Kelly Shoppach, Guillermo Mota and Randy Newsom(PTBNL) for Coco Crisp, Josh Bard and David Riske

2 to 5: See Kelly Shoppach details 2 thru 5

Eight Degrees

Jake Westbrook (originally drafted 1 by Rockies in 1996) - 60 day DL

1. Trade 2000 Yankees with Ricky Ledee and Zach Day for David Justice

2. Justice - Trade 1997 Braves with Marquis Grissom for Alan Embree and Kenny Lofton

3. A. Embree - Draft 1989 (5)

B. Lofton - Trade 1992 Astros with Dave Rohde for Willie Blair and Eddie Taubensee

4. A. Blair - Trade 1990 Athletics for Alex Sanchez

B. Taubensee - Waivers 1991 from Athletics

5. Sanchez - Trade 1990 Blue Jays (PTBNL) with Mauro Gozzo and Steve Cummings for Bud Black

6. Black - Trade 1988 Royals for Pat Tabler

7. Tabler - Trade 1983 White Sox for Jerry Dybzinski

8. Dybzinski - Draft 1977 (15)

Ten Degrees

Jensen Lewis

1. Draft 2005 (1) supplemental for Omar Vizquel

2. Vizquel - Trade 1993 Mariners for Felix Fermin and Reggie Jefferson

3. A. Fermin - Trade 1989 Pirates (PTBNL) with Denny Gonzalez for Jay Bell

B. Jefferson - Trade 1991 Reds for Tim Costo

4. A. Bell - Trade 1985 Twins with Curt Wardle, Jim Weaver and Rich Yett for Bert Blyleven

B. Costo - Draft 1990 (1)

5. Blyleven - Trade 1990 Pirates with Manny Sanguillen for Gary Alexander, Victor Cruz, Rafael Vasquez, and Bob Owchinko

6. A. Alexander - Trade 1978 Athletics for Joe Wallis

B. Cruz - Trade 1978 Blue Jays for Alfredo Griffin and Phil Lansford

C. Vasquez - Trade 1979 Mariners with Bud Anderson and Rob Pietroburgo for Ted Cox

D. Owchinko - Trade 1980 Padres with Jim Wilhelm for Jerry Mumphrey

7. A. Wallis - Trade 1978 White Sox for Mike Vail

B. Griffen - aFA 1973

C. Lansford - Draft 1978 (1)

D. Cox - Trade 1978 Red Sox with Bo Diaz, Mike Paxton, and Rick Wise for Dennis Eckersley and Fred Kendall

E. Mumphrey - Trade 1979 Cardinals with John Denny for Bobby Bonds

8. A. Vail - Waiver Claim 1978 from Mets

B. Eckersley - Draft 1972 (3)

C. Kendall - Trade 1976 Padres with John Grubb and Hector Torres for George Hendrick

D. Bonds - Trade 1978 Rangers with Len Barker for Jim Kern and Larvell Blanks

9. A. Hendrick - Trade 1973 Athletics with Dave Duncan for Ray Fosse and Jack Heidemann

B. Kern - aFA 1967

C. Blanks - Trade White Sox for Jack Brohamer

10. A. Fosse - Draft 1965 (1)

B. Heidemann - Draft 1967 (1)

C. Brohamer - Draft 1967 (34)

Eleven Degrees

Joe Smith (originally drafted 3 by Mets in 2006) (injured)

1. Trade 2009 Mariners/Mets with Luis Valbuena for Franklin Gutierrez

2. Trade 2004 Dodgers with Franklin Gutierrez for Milton Bradley

3. Bradley - Trade 2001 Expos for Zach Day

4. Day - Trade 2000 Yankees with Jake Westbrook and Ricky Ledee for David Justice

5 to 11: See Jake Westbrook details 2 thru 8

Luis Valbuena (originally 2002 aFA by Mariners)

1 to 11: See Joe Smith details 1 thru 11

Columbus Clippers (AAA)

One Degree

Draft 2004: Chuck Lofgren (4)

Draft 2005: Stephen Head (2), Jordan Brown (4), Kevin Dixon (5) - Restricted List, Ryan Edell (8)

Draft 2006: Wes Hodges (2), Matt Meyer (15)

Draft 2008: Donnie Webb (10), Ryan Blair (21)

aFA 2004: Hector Rondon - 40 Man

aFA 2005: Frank Herrmann

mFA 2007: Rich Rundles (originally drafted 3 by Red Sox in 1999)

mFA: 2008: Tony Graffanino (originally drafted 10 by Braves in 1990)

mFA 2009: Jack Cassel (originally drafted 25 by Padres in 2001), Blaine Neal (originally drafted 4 by Marlins in 2001) - 7 day DL, Ken Ray (originally drafted 18 by Royals in 1993), Kirk Saarloos (originally drafted 3 by Astros in 2001), Michael Tejera (originally drafted 6 by Marlins in 1995), Jesus Merchan (originally aFA by Twins in 2000)

Purchase 2008: Damaso Espino (Royals - originally 2000 aFA by Reds)

Two Degrees

Zach Jackson (originally drafted 1 by Blue Jays in 2004)

1. Trade Brewers 2008 with Matt Laporta, Rob Bryson and Michael Brantley (PTBNL) for CC Sabathia

2. Sabathia - Draft 1998 (1)

Yohan Pino (originally aFA by Twins in 2005)

1. Trade Twins 2009 for Carl Pavano

2. Pavano - FA 2009

Juan Salas (originally aFA by Devil Rays in 1998)

1. Trade Rays 2009 for Isaias Velasquez

2. Velasquez - aFA 2004

Mickey Hall (originally drafted 2 by Red Sox in 2003) - 7 day DL

1. Trade Red Sox 2008 – Paul Byrd

2. Byrd - FA 2006

Three Degrees

Jason Donald (originally drafted 3 by Phillies in 2006)

1. Trade 2009 Phillies with Carlos Carrasco, Lou Marson and Jason Knapp for Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco

2. A. Francisco - Draft 2002 (5)

B. Lee - Trade 2002 Expos with Jeff Stevens, Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew

3. See Grady Sizemore details 2

Eleven Degrees

Josh Barfield (originally drafted 4 by Padres in 2001)

1. Trade 2007 Padres for Kevin Kouzmanoff and Andrew Brown

2. A. Kouzmanoff - Draft 2003 (6)

B. Brown - Trade 2004 Dodgers with Franklin Gutierrez for Milton Bradley

3 to 11: See Joe Smith details 3 thru 11

Akron Aeros (AA)

One Degree

Draft 2003: Scott Roehl (10) - DL

Draft 2004: Carlton Smith (21)

Draft 2005: Nicholas Weglarz (3), Neil Wagner (21)

Draft 2006: Jared Goedert (9), Joshua Tomlin (19), Vinnie Pestano (20) - DL

Draft 2007: Beau Mills (1), Josh Judy (34)

Draft 2008: Lonnie Chisenhall (1), Zach Putnam (5), Eric Berger (8), Brian Grening (38)

aFA 1998: Armando Camacaro

aFA 2003: Jose Constanza

aFA 2004: Cristo Arnal

aFA 2005: Jeanmar Gomez, Carlos Rivero, Jerad Head

aFA 2006: Erik Stiller

Two Degrees

Scott Barnes (originally drafted 8 by Giants in 2008)

1. Trade Giants 2009 for Ryan Garko

2. Garko - Draft 2003 (3)

Connor Graham (originally drafted 5 by Rockies in 2007)

1. Trade Rockies 2009 for Rafael Betancourt

2. Betancourt - mFA 2003

Steven Wright

1. Draft 2006 (2) compensation for Kevin Millwood

2. Millwood - FA 2005

Carlos Santana (originally 2004 aFA by Dodgers) - 40 Man

1. Trade 2008 Dodgers with John Meloan for Casey Blake

2. Blake - mFA 2002

Joshua Rodriguez

1. Draft 2006 (2) compensation for Bob Howry

2. Howry - FA 2004

Matt McBride

1. Draft 2006 (2) supplemental for Scott Elarton

2. Elarton - FA 2004

Ten Degrees

John Drennen

1. Draft 2005 (1) supplemental for Omar Vizquel

2 to 10: See Jensen Lewis details 2 thru 10

Kinston Indians (A+)

One Degree

Draft 2005: Roman Pena (9)

Draft 2006: (Judson) Ryan Morris (4) - DL, Paolo Espino (10), Mike Pontius (43) - DL

Draft 2007: Adam Davis (3), Jonathan Holt (5), Mark Thompson (8), Adam White (9), Heath Taylor (10) - DL, Matthew Brown (13), Christopher Jones (15), Kyle Landis (18), Joseph Mahalic (32) - DL, Dallas Cawiezell (40), Douglas Pickens (50)

Draft 2008: (Robert) Cord Phelps (3), David Roberts (4), Tim Fedroff (7), Bryce Stowell (22), Steve Smith (25), Russell Young (28), Michael McGuire (43)

aFA 2004: Alex Castillo, Richard Martinez

aFA 2005: Lucas Montero

aFA 2006: Santo Frias, Ron Rivas

aFA 2007: Alexander Perez

aFA 2009: Chen Lee

mFA 2009: Kyle Haines (originally drafted 31 by Giants in 2004), Ole Sheldon (originally drafted 4 by Astros in 2004)

Two Degrees

Nick Hagadone (originally drafted 1 by Red Sox in 2007)

1. Trade 2009 Red Sox with Justin Masterson and Bryan Price for Victor Martinez

2. Martinez - aFA 1996

Bryan Price (originally drafted 1 by Red Sox in 2008)

1. Trade 2009 Red Sox with Justin Masterson and Nick Hagadone for Victor Martinez

2. Martinez - aFA 1996

Lake County Captains (A)

One Degree

Draft 2006: Chris Nash (24), Ryan Miller (36), Travis Turek (48)

Draft 2007: T.J. McFarland (4), Bo Greenwell (6), Garrison Campfield (12), Matthew Willard (49)

Draft 2008: Curtis (Trey) Haley (2), Jeremie Tice (6), Matthew Langwell (11), Adam Abraham (13), T.J. House (16), Kaimi Mead (18), Nate Reckangel (19), Roberto Perez (33), Eddie Burns (39) - DL

Draft 2008: Nickolas Sarianides (28)

aFA 2004: Anillins Martinez

aFA 2007: Francisco Jimenez, Alexander Morales, Danny Salazar, Karexon Sanchez, Abner Abreu - DL, Delvi Cid

aFA 2008: John Allman

aFA 2009: Daniel DeGeorge, Trent Baker

Three Degrees

Jason Knapp (originally drafted 2 by Phillies in 2008)

1. Trade 2009 Phillies with Jason Donald, Lou Marson and Carlos Carrasco for Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco

2. A. Francisco - Draft 2002 (5)

B. Lee - Trade 2002 Expos with Jeff Stevens, Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew

3. See Grady Sizemore details 2

Mahoning Valley Scrappers (A-)

One Degree

Draft 2008: Clayton Cook (9), Guido Fonseca (12), Marty Popham (20), Moises Montero (26), Tim Palincsar (40)

Draft 2009: Jason Kipnis (2), Kyle Bellows (4), Austin Adams (5), Ben Carlson (6), Jordan Henry (7), Cory Burns (8), Preston Guilmet (9), Brett Brach (10), Jeremy Johnson (13), Kyle Smith [SS] (14), Casey Frawley (17), Nick Kirk (19), Kyle C Smith [P] (20), Antwonie Hubbard (26), Tyler Sturdevant (27), Matt Packer (32), Gregory Folgia (40), Vidal Nuno (48)

aFA 2005: Juan Aponte

aFA 2006: Jose Urena, Jesus Brito

aFA 2007: Jason Smit

aFA 2008: Chun-Hsiu Chen, Argenis Martinez, Rafael Vera

Arizona Indians (Rookie League)

One Degree

Draft 2007: Michael Valadez (26), Kevin Rucker (47)

Draft 2008: Carlos Moncrief (14), Kevin Fontanez (24)

Draft 2009: Kirk Wetmore (11), Joseph Colon (12), Mike Rayl (15), Dale Dickerson (16), Dwight Childs (18), Daniel Jimenez (23), Chris Kersten (33)

aFA 2005: Kelvin De La Cruz

aFA 2006: Darling Read

aFA 2007: Jose Flores, Franklin Soto, Sung-Wei Tseng, Lurvin Basabe, Jose Camargo

aFA 2008: Elvis Araujo, Jose Campos, Francisco Valera, Rolando Petit

aFA 2009: John Goryl, Justin Toole, Giovanny Urshela, Joel Torres

Two Degrees

Rob Bryson (originally drafted 31 by Brewers in 2006)

1. Trade Brewers 2008 with Matt LaPorta, Zach Jackson and Michael Brantley (PTBNL) for CC Sabathia

2. Sabathia - Draft 1998 (1)

Gregorio Rosario (originally 2006 aFA by Mariners) - DL

1. Trade Mariners 2007 - Jason Davis

2. Davis (1999-21)

Dominican Republic Indians (Rookie League)

One Degree

aFA 2007: Francisco Montano, Jesus Quintero

aFA 2008: Ramon Cespedes, Fernando Flores, Harold Guerrero, Oswell Munoz, Wady Pinales, Alexander Torres - RL, Yileiviu Fernandez, Nelson Izaguirre, Jesus Aguilar, Joly Fermin, Henry Moreno, Agustin Avila, : Jose Cabrera

aFA 2009: Rolando Cariel, Luis Castillo, Carlos Del Carmen, Isias Encarnacion, Enriquez Pacheco, Orlando Pereira, Moisses Ramirez, Wuilmer Ramirez, Jefry Robles, Phillip Valdez, Alejandro Villa, Alex Monsalve, Jack Avila, Wally Bryan, : Erik Gonzalez, Juan Bonifacio, Dioris Robles, Aderlin Tejeda

The following players also left (without other compensation) the Tribe since the last update in July (or they weren’t listed on any rosters)

Winston Abreu Matt Herges, Masa Kobayashi, Greg Aquino, Vinnie Chulk, Rob Mackowiak, Andy Cannizaro, Bobby Livingston, Eric Perlozzo, Walter Diaz (48), Ryan Anthony, Juan Lara, Jose Osoria

Herron out vs. Purdue, maybe longer

talonk — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:49:05 -0000

Herron out vs. Purdue, maybe longer

Doubtful that Berry gets his redshirt unless he is too unhealthy to play the next couple of weeks. Or does this mean more time for Jordan Hall?