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Tom (Mpls): What are the chances Thabeet actually becomes a legitimate NBA player?

Chad Ford: Personally ... I think it's around 50 percent. His length and shot blocking ability give him a good chance of sticking as a defensive center. But his offense? Ugh. But to be clear, scouts tend to be higher on him than I am.

10 months ago Tiny twasserm 5 comments 0 recs

A backup big

I'm a Kings fan, and I'm here to ask what kinds of trades you would be interested in.  See, we're having a pretty rough rebuilding season, and we're more than ready to make trades that will net us young prospects.  Unfortunately, we only have a few assets to offer that we wouldn't mind giving up and other teams would want.  Two of our most available assets that others might want are Mikki Moore and Shelden Williams, backup bigs. 

Meanwhile, your team seems to have nearly all the pieces needed to be a great team now, but something hasn't quite fallen into place at this point.  It seems to me that you guys need a better backup big.  If you agree, something might work out nicely between us. 

Mikki Moore is the perfect backup 4.  He has legitimate size (7'0"), plays with a lot of energy, runs the floor well, does the little things well (like setting screens and taking charges), is an ideal teammate, and excels with a good point guard (led the league in FG% while playing with Kidd two years ago).   He's signed for about $5.6 million this year and has a partially guaranteed contract next year (team option: cut him in the summer and pay him about $2 million or keep him and pay him just under $6 million).

Shelden Williams was a #5 pick who hasn't turned out as well as you'd hope for from a #5, but is still a very serviceable NBA player.  He is a very good post defender and rebounder who clogs the paint on defense but struggles to contribute well on offense.  He's played well in limited minutes this year (PER of 16.6), and would be a good defensive backup 4 or 5.  This is the final year of his contract, and he's getting $3.6 million.  Next year, he'll be a RFA.

Looking at your roster, I'd love to have Wright.  He's a promising young prospect who has the misfortune of playing a crowded position on a team that's almost ready to win now.  Unfortunately, his salary doesn't match up evenly with either of our backup bigs. 

So, would you like either of our backup bigs?  If so, which one?  What would you be willing to give to get them? 

Williams for Wright and Ely?  

Moore and Bobby Brown (whom we absolutely love) for  Wright, Armstrong, Marks, and a 1st rounder (which I'd be willing to go for, but I'm not sure my fellow Kings fans would approve of)?

Any other ideas on how salaries could work?

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This kind of thing is way less aggrevating now that he's in a different city. From Henry Abbot of True Hoop:

"Ron Artest is completely well-intentioned. He is willing to accept any role, including role player around Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady as planned. The problem with that is that McGrady has rarely been the McGrady that Artest planned, and McGrady has not played at all the past three games (the past four if you count his statue imitation in Miami.) With the Rockets short-handed and Artest so determined to solve their every need, he has apparently decided that the Rockets need him to play as he did for the Kings last season when Kevin Martin was out. Artest carried that offense and led the Kings to a surprisingly solid season. This season, however, he is playing more minutes and on a still-sore right ankle. Far too often, we get dribble, dribble, dribble, force a shot."

about 1 year ago Tiny twasserm 2 comments 0 recs

Another trade idea

I'm a relative novice to the Trade Machine, but I was tinkering some this morning and I thought I'd ask for comments on this.

 

Sacramento gets: Alexis Ajinça, Julian Wright

New Orleans gets: Mikki Moore, Raymond Felton

Charlotte gets: Mike James, Houston's 2009 1st rounder from Sacramento (I don't know how to include this in the Trade Machine)

 

Why Sacramento does it: we give up Moore and a late first rounder to get two young prospects in their rookie contracts, one of whom could potentially be a long-term backup for Hawes and the other of whom was a late lottery pick at SF, a position where we're still tinkering.  And now that we've learned how to type "Donté", we're in prime position to learn how to type "Ajinça".

 

Why New Orleans does it: They were expected to contend this year and have looked fairly mediocre, so something has to change.  Their most glaring need: backup big men.  Mikki Moore is among the league's best backup big men and thrives with a good point guard who runs the floor well.  Neither Wright (10.9) nor James (9.3) have been getting major minutes, especially given what they're paying James.  Felton would get them a replacement backup point guard for the one they lose (James) and a replacement young prospect for the one they lose (Wright). 

 

Why Charlotte does it: At first, I wrote the trade with Charlotte getting James and a 2nd rounder.  I couldn't convince myself that they'd do it.  Now, with that 2nd rounder changed to a late 1st round pick, here's why they go for it:

--Larry Brown notoriously loves trades, and right now has essentially the roster he inherited.

--Larry Brown has been frustrated with his point guard play, the drafting of Agustin shows that the management doesn't like Felton as a long term option, and Agustin has recently showed that he is ready to be a serviceable backup with potential to be a long term starter.

--Larry Brown has had his greatest success with scoring point guards (Billups and Iverson), and James is a scoring point guard.

--James has a bit of the swagger that Jordan loves in a player.

--Charlotte doesn't have much invested in Ajinca-- he was their second first round pick of 2008, taken at #20 with Denver's pick after taking Agustin #9 with their own pick.  Getting another late 1st rounder recoups that loss.

 

So what do you think?  Like I said, I'm a relative novice at the Trade Machine, so feel free to tell me how ridiculous this is.  Who doesn't do this and why?  Are we getting enough for Moore and Houston's pick?  If you wouldn't be willing to do this as written, would you do it if we changed Houston's 1st to our 2nd round pick?

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Actually, no, you don't. Neither do I. Neither does anyone else, for that matter.

I couldn't put it any more gratifyingly than Henry Abbot in TrueHoop's Thursday Bullets:

Ramona Shelburne explains how rookie and former D-Leaguer Mike Taylor leap-frogged veteran Jason Hart on the Clippers' depth chart at point guard.

about 1 year ago Tiny twasserm 4 comments 0 recs

When do we bury the hatchet?

 

Something has been eating at my conscience since the beginning of the summer, something so dark and terrible that I've barely even been able to admit it to myself. After all this time, I can't keep quiet any longer. I must humbly make my confession and submit myself to the judgment of the experts most fit to render a verdict: the loyal contributors of Sactown Royalty.

 

See, I consider myself a faithful and passionate Kings fan. Though I can't claim the 25-year longevity that some of you can boast, I remember the days of pinning my hopes on Olden Polynice and Mitch Richmond. I remember the excitement of 1998 and the crushing experience of taking Utah to five games only to have our hopes doused by Stockton-to-Malone. I remember the joy of watching Jon Barry and Scot Pollard give all that they had to give on the court and I remember that feeling in the pit of my stomach when I saw Scot and Vlade carry Chris Webber off the floor in 2001. And I remember hating the Lakers, despising Fox, Horry, Shaq, and Kobe. The “Beat LA” thread before the first game of last season drew me out of two years of Sactown Royalty lurking. I hate the idiotic arrogance of Laker fans and Phil Jackson's condescension.

 

But here's my confession: this past June, I found myself rooting for the Lakers to beat the Celtics in the Finals. Let me explain.

 

I'm sure I could come up with a whole list of little reasons, but really, it came down to two big things: I like the current Lakers' style of play better than that of the Celtics and I like the current Lakers' philosophy of building a team better than that of the Celtics. Let me start with the team-building philosophy.

 

See, the Lakers' core was built around high, risky draft picks that turned out very well (Kobe, Bynum), lower draft picks that became very nice complimentary pieces (Farmar, Turiaf), and reclamation projects that other teams had given up on (Odom). The Gasol trade which put them over the top seemed to me like a wise use of an expiring contract and a little bit of young talent to acquire a good player from a team that was looking to shed salary and rebuild. I really respect a team that's built primarily through smart draft picks and smart trades. Aside from Paul Pierce, I don't feel the same way about the Celtics. They had a number of veterans (Cassell, Posey, Brown, wasn't there someone else?) who signed deals for well below market value in hopes of getting a ring-- a move that's always bothered me (especially when Payton and Malone signed with the Lakers) because it feels anti-competitive. The Garnet trade didn't feel like a smart move by the Celtics, it felt like a former Celtic (McHale) was helping his old team to the detriment of his current team. Once again, the move felt against the spirit of competition, and I don't like teams that build that way.

 

Even more significant, in my eyes, was the contrast in styles of play. The Celtics were (according to Hollinger) one of the greatest defensive teams of all time. They played methodical, pounding basketball that was very effective, but no more enjoyable to watch than the style played by the Spurs. The Lakers had a fast-paced offense with creative ball-movement and multiple athletic scoring options. Which style should a true Kings fan prefer to watch?

 

So, here's my question: Have I committed some sort of Kings apostasy by rooting for the Lakers in the finals? If so, is there any statute of limitations on how long we need to hold a grudge against them? When do we bury the hatchet? Personally, I felt like we had even more reason to hate Utah than LA because the Jazz played dirty; the Lakers were just good and helped by a little shady officiating (which was not their own fault). But haven't we all moved on from hating the Jazz? Their current team holds no resemblance to their Stockton-to-Malone incarnations (despite Kirilenko's continued presence), so we've moved on. Though the current Lakers team still has Kobe, the overall feel of the team seems totally different from the incarnations I hated.

 

Is it time to move on? If not, when?

 

I, for one, look forward to the day when I can shake the hand of a decent, knowledgeable Laker fan (assuming any exist) and say, “We had some good battles back in the day, didn't we?”

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