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Williams / O'Brien
Not sure that Gary Williams "drove the BC program into the ground" but I think that he and all successive BC hoops coaches have had to overcome a lack of support from the BC administration for the basketball program. As I recall, Williams had heavily recruited Rumeal Robinson from Cambridge Rindge and believed that he was going to get him. He was a Prop 48 (non qualifier by NCAA academic standards) and would have needed to raise his test score or sit out his freshman year. Most teams in the Big East were accepting those recruits but I don’t think BC would budge and that led to hard feelings. I do think he had one foot out the door after that occurred and probably did not recruit with the same tenacity after that point. To complicate matters, there was the Jay Murphy night school situation which got bad press in the Globe and led to the admissions tightening the screws even further by the time O’Brien got there. So O’Brien inherits a team with the cupboard basically bare (except for Dana Barros) and with one hand tied by admissions.
Then after 4-5 years of losing seasons he gets it turned around with the Curley team and starts to develop a pipeline (with the help of Leo Papile) of local talent before the admissions fiasco causes his departure and sets BC hoops back to square 1 again.
Not saying that BC should have turned a blind eye to any & all issues like many of the "factories" do but it just seems like whenever BC starts to make progress and play winning basketball, something happens to derail it and it is usually a self inflicted wound.
Quite a few more answers on the offensive end than the current squad. Hinnant was really a capable and efficient point guard. Never looked for his own offense but when they doubled the post he could make the open jumper. Rice was a guy who gave them instant offense – even as a freshman. We have another guard coming from Virginia next fall. Can only hope that he has a similar career at BC.
UNC and BU
Hope that the loss to UNC (a game they virtually gave away with something like 25 turnovers and losing a 7 point lead in the last 2 minutes) does not come back to bite them. Not certain what happened against BU as you have to believe that BC has better talent. In any case, its still there ahead of them and I would agree that 19 or 20 wins out of the ACC SHOULD get them in. Watched game yesterday and turnovers continue to be problematic. Will need to clean that up if they want to do anything in either the ACC or NCAA tournaments.
Sounds right Satchel. That’s 9 plus the 4 incoming freshmen which makes 13 which is the scholarship limit. Chances of all 9 coming back are probably less than 50/50 – which would open a spot for a transfer (preferably a pure shooter or a big that can finish at the rim). Anyone hear anything about McGlockton ? I assume he has been practicing with the team even though he is a redshirt. I wonder if they have seen enough to believe he can contribute at an ACC level eventually ?
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Finishing - or not
The numbers speak for themselves don’t they. Yet, in watching the game it feels like the shooting % would have (or should have) been in the low 40’s if they had made a fair share of those chances at or near the rim. Karnik, Post, Bickerstaff, Demar & Zackery all missed from close range. Feel like there were at least 10 or 12 chances that SHOULD have been baskets but were not converted. Agree 100% that the bigs have to do a better job at finishing. Karnik just does not seem to have a soft touch. Maybe Post & Bickerstaff need to get a little stronger but its possible that they are what they are as you say. Hopefully, they develop because Mighty does not profile to provide much scoring from the center position and Aligbe at 6’6 may be able to score in transition but is undersized to score in the paint. Hand and Kelley should improve the outside shooting – which has no place to go but up at this point.
I like what Makai has given BC this year. He consistently plays hard at both ends of the court and has been our most productive scorer in ACC play averaging 15 per game over the 6 games played to date. I have no idea if he is hoping to obtain a graduate degree but I would like to see him come back next year to play alongside Hand and serve as a mentor for Hand & Kelley. Don’t think he is as good as either Bowman (not as athletic) or Robinson (not the shooter) but he can definitely make $ playing overseas. I am guessing Grant would like him back next year but it will be Makai’s decision. Does he want to come back for a 6th year of school to play with his brother / pursue a degree or will he want to move on and start earning money as a professional ?
Breakthrough win - not to be
Watched most of the first half prior to the start of the football game. Team looked great in that 1st quarter and I thought this may finally represent a breakthrough win for Coach McNamee and the team. They were playing with confidence at both ends and only had 1 turnover (which has been a big problem) in the 1st quarter. They started to turn it over and went cold in the 2nd quarter and went from 10 up to 7 down. As I recall, I believe they had NC State on the ropes last year and could not close the deal. They seem similar to the Celtics in the respect that they will look great for 10 or 12 minutes but have difficulty in sustaining it for longer periods of time – much less the whole game.
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I think you have made some valid points and criticisms Newton, but overall I think Grant is off to a good start and I see more reason for optimism than to be pessimistic.
1) I would agree with you on the time outs. Felt that he waited too long to call a time out when Georgia Tech made their run to start the 2nd half and went from a 2 point deficit to a 12 point lead.
2) Had a similar thought on Galloway and maybe you consider starting him 2nd half as he was red hot. He did play in the 2nd half but I don’t believe he came in until BC was down 12. He hit another 3 at that point as I recall before eventually cooling off. Not sure on JVB as he must feel that he is unable to beat out either Karnik or Post. I thought that he did battle in the Pitt game and maybe you start to give him some of Karnik’s minutes. Post played well and showed a good touch and was active on the offensive glass the other night. Tough to get minutes for all three.
3) Don’t think you can judge him on player development at this point. Have to see what these guys look like at this time next year. Can only speculate, but have to think that Grant is not seeing the defensive intensity needed from Thompson in practice to give him more minutes ? Since Bickerstaff’s productivity has leveled off I agree with you in wanting to see what Thompson can do with increased P/T.
4) Don’t know what happened against Albany and whatever it was that should not happen, but BC was a 4 point underdog to Pitt and a 2 pt. favorite against G. Tech so those are basically "toss up" games.
My reasons for optimism are big picture or long range and include 1) assembling a good staff 2) very good start to recruiting. Not sure even the most optimistic BC hoop fans saw him landing a Top 30 class coming off the poor results BC has shown in the recent past 3) Watching the games I think they run good offense for the most part and get many good looks. Unfortunately, they just don’t have the horses / offensive firepower to make the winning plays at crunch time 4) I think Grant has the patience to know this is not going to happen overnight and the work ethic to see this through (see his postgame comments on the BC athletic website) – he will need to back up the 1st recruiting class with another solid haul of 2/3 players – or maybe add a shooter via transfer portal. Yes, he has a few warts, but I have hope and I think that there are more reasons than not to keep hope alive.
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Kraft / Cignetti
Maybe Hafley was going to make a change anyway. Did you love Cignetti’s offense and play calling ? Not me. I found it to be very predictable. Not sure if he went with a push or blessing from Hafley but certainly possible. In any event, I find it a strange take to blame Kraft. Cignetti is from the Pittsburgh area and may be he simply wanted to get back to his roots.
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I believe Al was the coach for 13 years. He stepped into a total mess with the recruiting fiasco and the departure of Scoonie Penn, Connelly and others so I think you have to give him a free pass for those 1st 3 years. He made the NCAA tournament in 7 of his last 10 seasons so for BC that was pretty damn good. No doubt he was not the most enthusiastic or active recruiter, but he had a very good eye for talent and was pretty good at closing the deal on the "hidden gems" that his assistants had laid the groundwork on. When he lost his best assistants in O’Shea, Cooley & Coen I don’t think he did a great job in replacing them and I would agree that the flex offense probably hurt recruiting.
I too am encouraged by what I have seen from Grant so far and will give him the same 3 year pass in my mind (his year 1 will be comparable to Skinner’s year 2 in the lack of success). If he can have similar success to Skinner for a 10 year period after that I would take it in a heartbeat
These 9 o’clock games are never well attended. Kind of too bad because it seemed BC was starting to draw some fans when they beat ND back in early December. The COVID situation when coupled with a losing streak has taken away any momentum that seemed to be building as a result.
Could not close the game out. Georgia Tech was quicker to a few rebounds and executed better than BC in the last few minutes. Not one BC starter scored in double figures and there was a player for G Tech who came in averaging 3 points a game and shot 7 for 11 on threes for 21 points. On the plus side, Post was a silver lining in this game with 24 points and 9 rebounds off the bench (although it was against a very small G Tech front court). Galloway also had a strong game with 18.
Agree that they need to reduce the turnovers. Had 24 yesterday which was the main factor that kept Clemson within striking distance. The turnovers basically cost them the game against UNC as I believe they had close to 30 in that one. Too bad they gave that one away and not sure how they lost to BU. If they were 13-2 instead of 11-4 I think they might also be ranked.
The announcer yesterday said that BC led the country in field goal %. Not sure if that is accurate because he had Swartz being from Australia and was giving Gagdeng’s field goal % on 3 pointers (has she even tried one ?). They do seem to get good shots and make a decent % when they don’t turn the ball over. This will be key for them to pull off upsets against the teams that are ahead of them in the standings.
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Agree on his inability to lead the fast break. He seems to have tunnel vision and wants to get all the way to the hoop even when the defender is set and waiting for him outside the circle. Does not look for trailers or guys filling the wings and does not even seem to consider fan dribbling to set up the offense. I agree with Satch on 2 of his main points. 1) Was encouraged by the team’s performance overall. Thought they ran good offense for the most part and had a ton of good looks. They worked much harder on defense than the game against UNC forcing a number of turnovers in the 2nd half. 2) Was not unhappy to see Grant pick up a T after watching Christian’s timid acceptance of bad calls for 7 years.
ESPN has BC as a 4 point dog
Pitt struggled early in the season and has had several crushing losses at the buzzer. They have been more competitive lately however and I expect they will have too much for BC in this one. Hugley is a load and can score in the post. Not sure we have anyone to stop him so probably will have to play some zone or double him. Burton is a transfer from Wichita State who can score on pull-ups or getting all the way to the rim. Hope I am wrong but I see Pitt winning this one by 10-12 points.