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Like snippets of the world from NOVA in 1982.. Georgetown.. Annie Oakley’s… Winston’s… Abbey Road… The Bayou… The Cellar Door… Old Town Alexandria… Fish Market, the Warf… The Corn Exchange… Chadwick’s… Andrea’s… Hybla Valley PuttPutt… sigh…
Your hometown? Hee he...
Right… Hayfield Class of 1977 (which could be 1877 as far as things went). The time when Hoes (pronounced whose) was out in the middle of nowhere… Franconia Springfield Parkway didn’t exist, the Nike site in Fairfax was still a Nike site but deactivated (and not a subdivision). Where the Shirley Expressway didn’t have anything to do with HOV it was just lanes going north in the morning and lanes going south in the evening rush hours… Where Vienna was a little village just south of Tyson’s Corner which itself was out in the middle of absolutely nowhere… and if you wanted to go to Reston you had to drive out Route 7, and then out Baron Cameron Road… and left on Reston Avenue (when it was two lanes…) Heck the Dulles Toll road didn’t exist and nobody lived in Loudoun County except people who didn’t have the money to buy a home nearer to the Beltway. Reston and Herndon were little islands in the middle of farms. And 28 was a two lane road from Reston, through Manassas, and out to US17 and 29 south of Warrenton. Oh! And did I mention that I66 ended in Gainesville? Yeah, you had to jump off and head down US29 to get to either 211 to wind through the mountains or all the way to I64 in Charlottesville before you could get to I81…. Or you could go north on 50 to Winchester but that was way out of the way…
I suppose that living in a cesspool hellhole like New York City would give you the perspective that NOVA was home… but my family is originally from that vast expanse of tax impoverished mountain and lake real estate north of Nyak and on the lowly west bank of the Hudson River… so from the heart of my family… if New York City sunk into the Atlantic… never to be seen or heard from again.. Upstate New York would have a massive celebration… and be free to actually make money instead of pour it into the city… But I digress…
You see… I live in Blacksburg… where rush hour is actually rush 20 minutes when school is in session and rush 10 minutes when it’s out of session and then it’s all about the lights at Prices Fork and West Campus Drive and then at Tom’s Creek Road. Yeah.. the place where there is almost always a refreshing breeze blowing, it rarely gets above 85, and Game Day is so much fun the crowd is actually fun to be around.
And who has an organized snowball fight in the middle of the "campus green" that’s nearly four football fields in size?
I’ll stick to Blacksburg/Christiansburg, with our monthly trips to Roanoke to go to the BJ’s Warehouse. You can exist in Queens.. but living takes the mountains, fresh air.. and tons of happy Hokies.
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Um, the Mountaineers of nearly south Western Pennsylvania...
Are stunningly mediocre… if not nearly awful… They lost to the Mary Land Turtles in week one, and played CW Post last week so that they could beat up on what is arguably a Division II FCS team. Their 2020 season rivals ours for awfulness..
That’s grounds for calling it a pick ‘em game.. the Wiseguys early odds favor WVA by 2.5 with a 50.5 O/U, but we won’t know official real odds until Wednesday. I think this is just boredom from the betting houses more than actual evaluation. WVA is auditioning for the ACC, and Tech is trying to figure out what the heck a quarterback is… Which also means that it really hasn’t a clue as to what an Offensive Coordinator is, except being offensive to the senses…
While I think that favoring West Virginia is a wise tactical move for the Hokies, because they play way better while being "Dissed" by the sports punditry – which hates us, and dismissed by the wiseguys who aren’t interested in our tiny money action, I do not see the Mountaineers as much good on the grid-iron. We’ll see, they could rear up and burn a couch in the visitors’ locker room just to remind us that we are in Morgantown…
Waiting your five things article. And yeah.. #15 in both polls is cool.. and all.. but way too teetery and PR vulnerable for my tastes.
That’s the single most descriptive word to relay the quality of Hokies’ Offense and Defense this game.
1. Corn ran nearly every pass play AT the line of scrimmage. 30 yard throws on slow developing plays with no mustard on the ball for a grand total of -2 yards on the catch and 4 or 5 YACs was the formula. Burmeister was having problems with downfield patterns.. He missed 3 critical reads one of which was a tight end seam that was wide open on a skinny post that could have been walked into the end zone but he had to get rid of the ball in under 4 seconds. Nope… He missed 2 other wide open reads and the pass that eventually ended in a TD to Tre Turner would have been a 75 yard TD pass if he’d hit Tre in stride. He had another to Tayvion that was largely the same thing.. Hit him in stride and it’s a TD. No mustard, though.
2. The defense was sort of bend but don’t break, and was almost completely without any sort of blitzing or reddoging. The main rush stayed at 3 with a 4th edge but Dax, Alan Tisdale, and Chamarri Connor were nearly always in some sort of inside coverage, and frankly every team on the planet is going to get the impression that our defense can’t defend the 6-10 yard out route. We got killed with those passes, today.. 3rd down and long presented nearly no problem for the Blue Raiders.. and we just didn’t cover the intermediate out routes in the flats. (no duh… we don’t run those plays so the defense doesn’t see them in practice, either. Eventually they came up with stops but it was frustrating. When you knew that if Hamilton had dialed up some serious ‘A’ game blitzes that the first half would have looked much different.
3. Corn earns a big fat Zero for his game plan, and another big fat zero for his play calling and selection during the 1st half and the latter part of the 2nd half. The game was put away but a drive with Kadum at the helm, that might have netted 3 points would have been tonic for the 2nd and 3rd stringers in ‘Garbage Time’.
Speaking of putting the Garbage in Garbage Time.. hats off to Devon Hunter who snagged a pick in the back of the end zone to effectively end the football game… UNTIL the myopic ref threw a PI flag and gave the ball back to MTSU for one or two more tries. It was a pathetically bad call, the coverage was good, and the move on the ball obvious. There wasn’t even an ounce of pass interference and the flag should have been picked up for the kneel downs at the 20 by the Hokies.
Real score 35-7 Should have been more, but the 2nd half performance redeemed the 1st half self-induced struggles.
Next week is harder.
No 78... MTSU is a real FBS football team with G5 level talent
They have a good defense – above good, actually, and a competent offense. Just because they are C-USA doesn’t mean that the don’t play good football. And the first half was testament to that fact.
a little lithium might help with those whipsaws between mania and depression… sort of even out the tempo…
Red... let's take this one year at a time...
Every season is different for the big pile of teams in the Twilight. It is, after all, just a game. This year is looking more like 2017/2018 in talent and scope. Next year might be better still.. or injuries could derail everything…
These aren’t pros.. and the prospect of Virginia Tech ever being a pro sports franchise like an Alabama or Ohio State.. is pretty slim… Once the entirety of the NIL money factor and the separation of the high end high money programs changes the composition of the conferences and divisions… the FBS NCAA league is going to look very much like FCS.. with just a shade better talent available… but no more big name players to speak of. And even fewer big time high dollar championship coaching staffs, either.
I look at it this way.. The CNU Captains won their season opener in Newport News 28-24… on a big come back lead by their Junior QB from South County High School in Lorton. The kid has no scholarship… only some grants and facility allowances… but he played a great game and was named to the New Jersey Athletic Conference player of the week.. or some such honor… Pretty cool.. and not one person is going to note that the NJAC is the SEC of Division III FCS football.
One day the ACC will have to choose… so will the other conferences and programs. Virginia Tech will have to choose. And frankly some of the best games that I ever watched of college football were played in the shabby little stadium in Newport News… when my 2nd son was marching in the band and we just went to have fun and watch kids that loved the game and gave it their all.
Friday, it took the entire team to win the game… They did what they had to do… and came away with a huge victory… The same can be said for the 3OT, 32PT series game in 2019, and the 2018 win in OT against the Wahoos.
On to MTSU… and I’ll worry about West Virginia when the time comes.
All likkered up and looking for the Shore Patrol to fight...
It was a funny ruckus… from the south stands.. looked like bees attacking an intruder to the hive…
Carolina slags were whining that he was being intimidated by the student that he attacked… yeah.. from like 8 rows down or up.. One wonders how much mooched brewski was downed… oh! It was the beer cheese for the pretzels… that was the problem.
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Look Debbie... save the gloom and doom for the soap opera circuit.
The defense is going to be solid and consistent – and that means improving through the season. We just shut down Howell.. not just blew up their Offensive line.. but shut down Howell… sacked him six time (he’s a running QB, remember?) and mad him make critical mistakes.
We’ll have to suffer through the slings and arrows of a pedestrian offense – because it’s not one ounce different than any other college Read-Option offense… but when Burmeister gets to riffing.. we get to scoring.. both touchdowns were on blown plays that he riffed on.
We shall see where it goes.. this team is way better than the dreary negative nancys think, and I have said this a thousand time… 2020 was a throw away season that doesn’t count for squat… it never should have counted.. and using it to gauge anything is fruitless…
So I don’t expect you to cheer up… it’s not your thing… Always making with the negative waves…
Woof woof… That’s my other dog imitation.
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It was an idiotic play to call... Another Corn Doltism...
You don’t run your smallest back into a pile in the ‘A’ gap.. at the line of scrimmage… I watched the replay later… (needless to say from the south end zone it wasn’t really clear in the stadium) King didn’t drop the ball, he was held up and stripped because he was significantly smaller than the people who tackled him. Of course if he’d gone down fast.. there’d have been not much gain on the play… but that’s another Corn in the Red Zone play calling problem anyway.
That play should have sent King to the Field side of the formation on a counter play to the end zone pin… not another dud dump up the middle…
Of course Corn up the middle and panicked 3rd down was a theme in the 2nd half…
We are probably going to be ranked in the first real poll of 2021… in both polls.. or at least the predictions say that we will. Fuente and Corn are making it way harder on themselves than they need to. This is football and points are more valuable than time burned… it’s an easy call.. STAND ON THE DAMNED ACCELERATOR! SCORE POINTS! The clock will take care of itself. Oh, and don’t run 60 to 70% of your running plays up the middle into tackles…
The fumble wasn’t really Keshawn’s fault… the bulk of the blame is in the booth for mistaking King for Holston and calling an inappropriately bad play for the personnel on the field.
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The crowd was not only electric for the entrance...IT STAYED... no one of any note left...
The stadium stayed full. There is some ACC Network coverage but almost the entire student sections emptied on to the field. Someone cranked up Enter Sandman.. and what you saw was a catharsis… the student body, fans, and most of all the Hokie football team cast out some serious 2020 demons and pumped some much needed energy back into the entire situation.
Burmeister is going to be a solid quarterback for the season… The running backs looked to be good, Holston was tearing it up. King’s fumble was unfortunate because the real score of the game would probably have been 24-10… but I don’t blame King for the drop, I blame the poor play call sending an outside back of smallish stature up the middle. But we all know that Corn has a er um… great love… for running up the middle… and driving the team into the boundary. Burmeister will settle down and even out the performance. Tre Turner dropped a touchdown pass that then James Mitchell finally caught but I am sure that Tre would have loved to have a Mulligan for that one.
There were things to work on. I am no longer worried too much about the defense.. the offensive line is gold, right now. They did a solid job and really, if they were given a better game plan they’d be much more comfortable and successful.
But a win for game one is good… a win for game one against a conference team is really good, and a win against that team when it’s ranked (even though I think that Carolina was seriously over-ranked… like by 15… but that’s just me…
Oh.. did I mention that beating Carolina is almost as good as beating the Hoos. Hokies beat the spread, and take the upset.
Oh.. did I mention that beating Carolina is almost as good as beating the Hoos. Hokies beat the spread, and take the upset.Next week is Middle Tennessee and a bit earlier start. Wow was it great to be in a packed and Jumping Lane Stadium… Last year sucked so bad…on so many levels… this was a pure cure.
Like I said before... excessive negativity or positivity to start.. with no evidence to use... makes for a WAG fest...
I think the ceiling is actually pretty good.. I stick with my prediction set and my original floor and ceiling mix. With the major caveat that Braxton Burmeister doesn’t do something like blow an ACL or break a foot again. (Floor: 8-4 Ceiling: 11-1)
Preseason guesses are what they are.. and the strawmen riddle the field in hopes that the crows won’t notice too much. We will not know until the Notre Dame game… The Irish are worried this season. Their fanbase is, as usual, rabid, braggadocious, and classless… but the fact remains they lost a huge lump of talent in 2020, and the undercurrent is them contemplating a step back. We’ll see…
Don’t judge anything by 2020. It was a COVID nightmare… Just check: The Post’s latest for some details but there is some editorializing in the article. Fuente’s job was never really threatened last year… Babcock was never going to fire him. He made the speech to clear the air from the irrational poison that was coming to a crashing crescendo. There were certain forces within certain areas of some levels of power who have never been on board with the Fuente Era, to begin with. They were always going to be the nay-sayers, the firebirds, the malcontents… because they are stuck in a prior generation, in a college football culture that no longer exists, and they never got over the reality that the Beamer Era was long past the end. It does show that it is still, even with a middle tier program in a middle tier league… in all its modesty and averageness… that fan bases think too much of themselves, and too much of the object of their extreme affection; to the point of being abusive when things don’t go their way.
I will be in the South End Zone.. near where my old club seats were in 2009… Same row… nearer to the stairs… and the only thing that I am really angry about is that they got rid of the Hokie Poky break between the 3rd and 4th quarters… that was stupid, and if you hadn’t noticed nothing has been the consistent since.
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Jay, he's sleazier than a strip club owner...
Like I said… unless he leaves on his own, Fuente isn’t going anywhere… We’ll see how the record stacks up.. anything between 6-6 (though I think that our floor will be 8-4) and 11-1 (If we win the opener) we go to a bowl game… and the firebirds of Hokie Nation will just end up flapping and stomping around. after 2024… who knows, college football will be totally different, and Tech will be playing in a mid-tier collegiate league…
No one is going to compete for any recruits above 3 stars of quality when Ohio State pulls in a kid who hasn’t played a snap in college and already is a NIL Money millionaire… Tech NIL money is chump change… and the vaunted NIL rule changes leave the player isolated away from the team and the team’s ephemera… (Money + Prestige)NFL Draft Prospects = Talent… I’ll have to work up a new equation for the NIL factor because NIL is going to be a major factor the Player’s money considerations.
Look for fewer and fewer high quality recruits because the Tee-Shirt, Sneaker, and Jersey money is non-existent.
It’s all about the Benjamins… and we ain’t got enough of ’em and never will.
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Ah.. at 23.. you don't remember the '70's... Class of 81... I was a Rat in September of 1977 when we got thrashed by TAMU
And could barely beat William & Mary and VMI… I think those were our only wins that season…
No this part of the university…. the undergraduate cohort will remain in Blacksburg.. but the big money is going to NOVA.. I always call it NOVA because it’s really not Virginia.. It’s its own special corner of hell. We moved there in 1974.. went to Hayfield for 10th, 11th, and 12th grades.. and then made my career there starting in 1982… Didn’t leave until 2016. It’s a powerful change agent, and that change happens so rapidly that few people really get a grip on it. To see the effects, just look at time lapses of my old working haunts.. Reston, Herndon, and Vienna/Tysons Corner. No the money is just too deep and broad there. It might not be in my lifetime, but eventually the university will be headquartered in the Alexandria Railyard… and the Blacksburg Campus will be the quaint little place in bucolic Southwestern Virginia where the undergraduates go to sweat it out.
As far as growth.. I own a house in town.. it’s now nearly doubled in value since I purchased it five years ago. This place is no longer insulated from the ravages of uncontrolled "growth" or in this case a massive growth in demand with a dearth of supply.
You see the news that Ohio State’s new QB is officially worth over $1million? Since the big money deals hit, college football, that hadn’t changed much in nearly 50 years, had explosive and confusing changes that just bloomed and strangled most programs… I really think that the rate of change is faster than you think, and the effects are more than predictable.
I hear the undercurrents from spouses who work for the school, people who just want to talk as they see you holding a camera photographing stuff.. It’s amazing what they’ll say in casual conversation. And it all points to a major rift between the concept of Virginia Tech being a major research institution, and a football school… and those arguments do not include the solution of "you can be both". They just don’t believe it.
Keep up the discussion, it counts big for traffic in the stats.
-John The really old, gray Fighting Gobbler..
This season could be Hokie linebacker magic...
We have basically four starting quality linebackers… and Hollifield and Tisdale have been playing together for so long they are looking like another blink at Hall and Adibi. My hope is that Hollifield is set up to heavily challenge the ‘A’ gap on pass rush coverage when needed. He’d be a scary proposition banging through a seam into the quarterback’s lap… or into an RO exchange…
Tisdale and Connor will probably cover the midfield assignments between Strong Safety and OLB… we’ll see but this could be a fun year in the defensive mid field for the Hokies.
The Patterson departure had to do with being trounced on the depth chart...
The Hooker departure had to do with injuries, the offensive scheme (which is not ideal for a lightly sprung QB – Hooker is not what his stats say). The offense was not a good fit for him, and he also didn’t make it at Tennessee… He’s the backup.
Hendon had chronic injuries and a serious issue with pressure consistency. (I liked him personally, he has his Tech diploma and I expect to see him coaching in the future.) Quincy just never developed the passing skills necessary to execute the plays that Fuente’s Bowling Green Read/Option required. Note that he’s in FCS now. Admittedly South Dakota State needs to be in the FBS… but things worked the way that they did.
Last season was a flat out disaster. COVID and COVID related state restrictions brutalized the team, left the defense putting 3rd string players in during significant parts of big games, and never had fewer than 15 critical people missing until the UVA game. Frankly, it’d have been better if they’d have bowed out for 2020. It was really that bad…
We’ll see how this season shapes up. I have my Orange polo shirt from 2010.. and my new fancy club seat tickets and lanyards ready to go.
I can tell you from inside.. that the players love Fuente… and are fiercely loyal to him. But it’s never going to be better… ever… the program just doesn’t make enough money to get beyond a 45-40 program wealth rank. Fuente’s payoffs are too expensive until his final year when it’s basically a single season. There just isn’t the money in the cupboard. He’s here until 2024.. and if we get back on the bowl streak between now and then, he’ll probably be here beyond. In a very different college football situation.
Clemson needs to go... It's draining everything away from the other ACC teams...
After FSU’s collapse and Miami’s perpetual sports pundit promise with little in the way of delivery… Clemson is the only top 32 team in the ACC. And no, UNC is not.. it benefitted from a flash in the pan and once Howell is gone will flutter back down to the middle.
Send Clemson were it belongs, to the new league forming around the SEC and top tier teams from the B1G, PAC12, and BIG XII… put two 16 team top tier conferences together… and take the remaining 98 programs and split them into more rational division levels. The top 32 teams are professional.. the bottom 98 are two amateur leagues.
It’s all about money, and we (along with most of the ACC) don’t rate in that league. Let FSU and Miami try their luck at the top tier along with Clemson. Bring in West Virginia, Rutgers, and Maryland to replace them.
What could be done, then is to have 8 total amateur conferences of 16 teams each 4 in the upper tier, and 4 in the lower tier.. There’d be some stragglers, and certainly with that sort of configuration there’d be some better FCS programs like South Dakota State that would make the jump up a level – with a reasonable championship shot.
One thing is for absolute certain is that none of the conferences will emerge from 2025 intact, and college football will be changed forever.
Tech will have to choose what sort of program that it wants to be, and we just don’t generate the revenues to stay in the top 32. Most of the ACC doesn’t. Most of the B1G doesn’t either.
It’s all about the Benjamins… it wasn’t always this way, but when big time TV contracts hit.. that was the first torpedo in the side of the NCAA football freighter… FWIW
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Jay... The game is up... NCAA football is rapidly heading to a fork in the road..
And will likely take it some time before 2025 – if Fexas and the Claim Jumpers head to the SEC early.
As I said before… Fuente is here until his contract expires in 2024… Will he receive and extension? I figure that might just depend on a few things, but there is a reality that is going to frustrate the purist of football (and big money NCAA sports fans) in Hokie Nation to no end. All lip service aside, Timothy Sands as is evidenced by his tenure high up in the Purdue hierarchy isn’t all that much into big time sports. His game is big time Grant Money for Big time Institutions… he’s more interested in things like Boeing’s big contribution to the NOVA campus that I suspect will eventually become the main campus of Virginia Tech… long after I get so old that it won’t matter anymore.
There is no money for the University in football or basketball… none… ZERO… (heck the university can’t even use trademarked symbols like the Hokie Bird, and the real flying VT without paying the AD a visit for permission and $$$ for the privilege) It’s all about ego and some public relations stuff. There are still some rabid football fans on the BOV, but I expect that those battles will eventually be won by the Endowment/Foundation folks, and not the Athletic Department.
How does that play into Fuente’s contract and any possible extensions? Again, revisit Purdue. Sands has stated to the faculty and staff that his goal is to create another Purdue in both size and research. That means a quantum increase in Masters and PhD student populations.. and a gradual diminution of the undergraduate program and refocusing of it on a more lucrative grant based student population. Lots and lots of cheap to keep research assistants. Fewer non-revenue producing majors… just enough to keep up appearances.
So… where does that put the Athletic Department? Which is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Foundation? It can’t be completely on the transparent up and up… that’s my guess.
When college football at the FBS level splits up into the semi-professional league, and the traditional amateur organization still under the NCAA, my guess is that Virginia Tech settles in as a modest dollar amateur program along with the reorganized bottom and middle feeder teams of the ACC, SEC, and B1G. Hey, maybe we’ll get a shot at a championship series for a change.
The reality is that Fuente is in the perfect position to lead the Hokie football team into that middle league…
BTW you know that I completely agree with you on Corn. His offense is straight out of high school, and might not even win there, either.
-Good to have you back.. I’ll be back to the staff in January… John
Fuente will be here until 2024. That's the end of his current contract.
The fan base is going to have to square up with reality. We are not a top tier program anymore… we lived there for about 15 years before college football changed due to the influence of huge media money and the lure of big money in the NFL Draft.
As college football re-organizes and the new semi-pro league forms, (somewhere on the order of 32 teams.. maybe) there will be room for a program like Virginia Tech in the upper end true-collegiate league that will form. The program, even with the big monetary push for the next few years, will still only generate the money to count in the mid-40’s in revenues. That’s not horrid, but it certainly isn’t enough to compete with the big money programs.
No, the Beamer era was a generation ago. It is fading as the wallet thins and the talent mostly shows up in the SEC and a few of the other programs that attract big money and draft attention. We don’t have either, frankly. And, the truth is that it’s the sheep skins, not the W/L ratio that is the purpose of collegiate athletics. The eventual division and sorting will help clear some of that up. If you notice.. there are lots of other programs out there in similar positions… Nebraska is unlikely to see the prominence that it once had, it’s revenues are too low. Purdue is over (and linked with Timothy Sands to go with it.) Auburn is fading. Florida State is struggling… Vanderbilt would be better off in the AAC or ACC. Clemson would be better off in the SEC. Ole Miss is missing the target… Arkansas is gone… Louisville bubbled up for a little while on the arms and legs of a pro-quality dominant QB… but is a flash in the pan.
The nostalgia is over. Tech may be good this season. It might have a winning record and get the pick of a juicy bowl game – for which it will have to pay penalties because not enough Hokies will buy tickets to go. We could have gone to a bowl last season… but the team voted to put it in park and try again in a real season with a full schedule and normal practices. And most of its starters available to play.
But dreams of national championships are just that.. fever dreams of people who are forever stuck in 1999… Wow was that a long time ago. No, unless FBS reorganizes into 4 leagues, One pro, and 3 amateur… and the ACC sheds Clemson.. we are unlikely to ever see any sort of championship playoff no matter how many wins we have including the ACC. We just don’t attract enough money.
So, Fuente will stay until 2024, and then by that time the entire structure of college football will probably be in a major transition. What happens after that? Who knows? Whit’s the AD until 2029… well past my official retirement date… and I just don’t see him wasting money on dismissing a coach that he can’t replace with someone better. Matt Campbell was interviewed in 2015…but preferred the corn and flat land of Iowa State.
And most of the rest of the list in our target zone are struggling too… Maybe we could talk Jeff Monken from Army into coming to Tech. He could install that cracked option and we’d probably win a bunch of games. It would be Paul Johnson’s ultimate defeat of Virginia Tech…
Peace… It’s all just really a fun silly sports spectacle.. and we all need to refocus on what’s really important in life. Sands wants Virginia Tech to be a major 40k mostly graduate school research institution with lots of lovely grant money flowing into the scuppers… Football or any other sport for that matter, doesn’t generate a dime for his purposes and 800 or so student athlete scholarships (full and partial) are drops in his bucket.
If you are from the class of 74, you’ll remember the magnificence of the Fighting Gobblers of Virginia Polytechnic Institute. That’s where this program is headed, again. And it’s likely to stay that way…
Ah was this a Freudian slip as a commentary
on the relative lack of imagination of Corn’s offensive offensive play calling?
"With Braxton Burmeister as the unquestioned starter at running back..."
Can’t disagree with your depth chart.. .and IF Corn would get Blackshear in the slot and down the field 8 yards… instead of hovering behind the line of scrimmage… he could be greatest show on college turf magic. Play him in the slot to the field side.. slide the pocket to that side and get the pass off within 3 seconds… one guy covering and empty field side beyond…
But it’s Corn… and Corn’s gonna throw that one at the line of scrimmage after 4 seconds and a 30 yard pass for 0 yards… or just run a Cheeto up the middle and beat the snot out of Burmeister…
Welcome back home sailor... Glad to see a Jay Review of things before the season kicks off.
I would swap a few around.. I think that we, in the overall picture of things, might be a shade better than BC (that game is going to be an interesting Pivot point… and a prime time Chestnut Hill affair to boot.) If Tech comes out healthy and beats UNC in the opener… this particular deck of cards looks like its for a game of 52-card pickup. Mac Brown is planting stories about his internal raves regarding his receivers (who are new and completely inexperienced)… Of course the sports media laps it up like hummingbirds to sugar water…
I think the first impression will look a bit different from the final total at the end. Tech is looking at a decent enough season IF Burmeister stays healthy and maybe we develop a solid backup – Kadum looks like he might end up being better than Burmeister as he gets to 2022. Though Burmeister can hang around in 2022 as well. Either way Kadum might very well see action this season and needs to step up to a the role of the seamless replacement. Otherwise, as Josh said… we lose Burmeister and we are screwed.
You saw my previews so I won’t get much deeper than that for now. Health, quality play, and some luck might land us around a 9-3 record… I think we can live with that.. .though the team could be a beat better if the wind stays at our backs.
I’ll be in the stands.. .behind the Corps in the South End Zone Club this season… Looking forward to being a fan. Next Friday my wife and I head to Lane at 1530 or so.. Tickets are fancy… let’s hope the opener is a stunner and UNC wobbles out with an L…
I was history... unofficial but plenty of credits... minor in Communications...
Josh, BlueLoneWolf was the Architecture major. Designs houses and suburban residential stuff now. Would really like to see him start writing again but that’s his choice.
Check this out a blast from the pre-photography past of 2015
I still can’t believe that this was 6 years ago now…
And relegation should be smooth and part of the encouragement for growth. There will always be a monetary component to the entire enterprise, and once the professional league forms there will be even stiffer fees and a surrender of amateur status.
See the Twilight series for that one:
Some may be duplicates but they might be of interest to you. It’s nice to see someone wanting to fix the mess instead of just living with it and complaining about "not winning" when winning really isn’t possible with the decks stacked the way that they are.
You are under the assumption that the conferences remain largely the same...
There is currently no realistic indication that the assumption will remain true.
College football is changing, and doing it very rapidly. Currently there are "Organic" changes occurring. There will be regulatory and legislative changes on the way as well. The BIG XII will quickly evaporate and dissolve into rapidly morphing conferences.. some programs will be in stronger FBS "Championship" contention, and some will not.
There is going to be a fist fight in the power structure of the Virginia Tech Athletic Management (for lack of a better name). There are two distinct and opposing parties involved. The Pro-Football Party, and the "We don’t want to be a Football School" Party. The institution itself gets no real monetary benefit from being a big football school. The Athletic Department is completely separate from the School in revenues and other than the BOV and the University President… there is no managerial connection between the entities. Sands is committed to being another Purdue. (The school administration from which he was hired, after his long life at Cal Berkley.) Check out Purdue’s football program’s status before you think that the Pro-Football faction is going to win this one.
From the looks of things there are going to be a good number of Purdues and Virginia Techs who are going to be faced with re-evaluating just what student athletics and big time big money athletics mean to the University, itself. So, we aren’t the only institution on the horns of a major image dilemma.
Again… other than the scholarship money, and the lucre for Athletic Department pocket lining…. Big time sports are nothing other than PR for the universities that host them. As the "revenue producing sports" move more toward open professionalism, many universities are going to demur. Will Tech be one of those schools that dials back the hype and refocuses the school’s image on academics and research? I probably have given away my suspicions… and it’s a 50/50 crap shoot as to what the outcome will be, but I do know that what you see happening to day will not be happening next season, and will be different again in another two on and on until the dust finally settles. FWIW
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Josh said it best.. "If Burmeister goes down, we’re screwed…" Now given the fact that Kadum showed us a ton of hope last season, and is a bigger physical presence than Burmeister, it’s still a matter of experience and with the current offense experience is critical. There are few "plays" in the box.. and most of the variation are based on active reads on the field as the play is unfolding. That takes experience and a good deal of luck. Herbert was amazing at it last year. He was patient and really quick accelerating out of cuts once he saw a crease develop.
The problem is that the Corn offense is based on the QB being a primary runner off of the "Cheato" (the base Read-Option play that has never really reliably worked for Corn since the Paxton Lynch days). It hasn’t worked because the Cheato relies on the QB reading the crash and taking the ball up the crease on the zone blocking scheme. That pounds the crap out of a QB. The guy that passes the ball and reads defensive coverages is not supposed to be pounded like a fullback by defensive linemen and head hunting linebackers. I suspect that’s what pounded Hendon into the turf, and caused him to break down in the middle of last season. He was too lightly sprung to take that sort of abuse.
And there in lies the big rub… Fuente’s (mostly Corn’s) offense is essentially Urban Meyer’s Bowling Green Read-Option, and it only worked when operated by a Tim Tebow or Paxton Lynch… tell me, where are they in the NFL, now? Fuente needs to find a better more varied balanced offense with a concentration on 3 second deliveries to intermediate routes in the passing game supported by quick countering runs off of zone blocking. All else would develop from that. He also needs to use the entire field, not just the Boundary side. Corn’s boudary side bias is so strong, defenses can pretty much forget having to heavily cover the field side. Why it is seen as effective to allow your opponent the opportunity to cover only a small and diminishing play box is just not in my football wheelhouse. Make the defense defend the entire field… it’s one of your best offensive tools… It’s like brutalist architecture… no matter how ugly and oppressive it is… people still keep building it.
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Prediction... this is temporary but there is no going back...
We are looking at complete realignment, and it’s looking like The Mouse might be on the losing end of some of its smaller sticks…
The early indications are that OU and Fexas will bolt before the 2025 media contract expires. There are strong rumors floating that Kansas and possibly Oklahoma State will go to the PAC12 (which might start it’s own renaming and shuffling work). The remaining Big XII leftover teams will scatter to other expanding conferences. Some to the B1G and some to the ACC.
So the Power 5 becomes the Power 4. And eventually before 2030 maybe even around 2025 there’ll be a serious reorganization where the lesser capable programs within those conferences split out and the FBS looks like two 32 team leagues. The upper 32 will be the big money schools and those hoping to be big money, and the lower 32 of that group will be purely traditional college football at a higher level. Since there are 130 programs in Division 1 FBS of which fewer than 20 are regularly represented in the big show events those splits might end up different. But the shuffle between high, middle, and low between the 130 programs will be interesting.
Where does Tech fall? I don’t see the Hokies being able to pull enough of the big money to push up into the top 32 programs. Right now we hover in the mid-40’s in revenues and even with the current big pitch to pull in more dough… (hey.. .We contributed to the Hokie Club) we fall into the middle tier of programs. I don’t see us getting out of that tier, either. Well, not unless the "blue collar" Hokies open the taps and that really isn’t going to happen with folks who A) want a Cadillac for the price of a Chevy… and B) Get mad and won’t buy the Chevy when it runs like one.
So… Congress will also step in.. the Courts will still have some major things to say as contract toes get stepped on… conference charters disintegrate.. and programs start looking for more appropriate homes…
And then the expanded Playoffs (this season they were supposed to vote on a 12 team playoff that at first blush looks like a revisit of the failed BCS pick your favorite power 20 school farce…) .
It’s all gonna be different, and maybe every year for a while… until all of the dust settles.