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I’ve found a way to game the system on the west coast
I can use the xfinity app to watch at 7pm in Seattle by viewing the east coast feed.
I tried once to watch "live" on TV at 10PM and fell asleep during the first match.
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I loved this segment
Was good to see a lot of these UFC stars of yesteryear get in there and actually work a bit; even if it was just all offense. I loved Jorge uses his most famous KO strike as his signature move.
One of my biggest questions after All Out was where does the inner circle go from here? Using Hager’s real life MMA career to few with former world champions in his division is a fun crossover for someone who’s a huge fan of both MMA and Pro Wrestling.
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Adam Cole has established a name for 14 years and gotten that character to a main event pay level
So that’s try to talk him into ditching all of that and starting from the ground up.
What an odd idea
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Part of having so many work rate guys is it allows for less amazing workers to have great matches
Wyatt could easily only work great wrestlers in AEW and out on consistent good to great matches because of it. Miro and Jericho have shown you don’t need to be Kenny Omega in AEW to get over. Not every match needs to be 5 stars.
Work rate isn’t the end all be all. I think there’s a huge gap between someone with the work rate of Ryback and the work rate of Wyatt.
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I completely disagree
I thought you could tell immediately it was a unique venue and the fans all looked stacked on top of each other. I thought you could tell with the volume of sound as well, all the sound was trapped in the building making for an incredible crowd.
I think we should do away with brand specific tag titles.
Let the tag champions for men and women travel between shows. This could be used to fudge the star power in a way that still fits in kayfabe. Orton and Riddle could appear on both shows if they beat the Usos in a unification bout for example.
Just allowing top stars in between shows Willy nilly doesn’t really make much sense to me, but then again when has that stopped WWE?
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I 100% agree. I’m in no way trying to excuse the behavior, just trying to state that there are aspects to this story (being drunk/high) that result in Flair not having conscious control of his actions, and subconsciously repeated prior actions (flashing to pop the boys). If true, which I believe it is, that he sexually assaulted the flight staff, I think it is totally reasonable to believe Flair when he says he can’t recall these actions, so it’s hard to expect him to apologize and take responsibility for a crime he’s accused of.
I believe he should take responsibility and needs to exhaust every avenue there is to atone for his actions. I think that’s the only way to ever have a shot at having a professional career for his remaining years.
But I understand it being very difficult take responsibility for a crime you have no recollection of committing. If I blacked out at a bar, woke up in my bed, and had the police at my door accusing me of assault, I would vehemently deny it regardless of if I did or didn’t commit the crime. In my mind I never did it. In Flair’s case he’s admitted to everything in his mind is reasonable to accuse him of, and denying anything he deems "unreasonable."
So it comes down to two avenues. Flair admits fault for something he may never believe he’s guilty of doing, or he stands his ground and takes his stance to the grave. Neither route guarantees him anything, and denying may be the "best" way to secure his legacy to as many of his fans as possible.
Ultimately it is out of his hands, and this along with all his other flaws will taint and tarnish his legacy to many fans. I think his commercial career and pro wrestling career ended with this episode coming out. I don’t feel bad for him. I think the biggest impact he can make at this point is to do anything he can to make amends for his actions, and be the figurehead to take your punishment for past crimes and try to grow and become better from doing it. But I highly highly doubt that happens.
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This seems pretty honest from Flair, while also treading the line to not incriminate himself
I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. He helicoptered around, and likely cornered the stewardess with his junk out, and in a very Ric Flair way probably requested if not straight up forced her to touch it.
That is sexual assault by the letter of the law, but I think drugs, alcohol, and playing for the laugh are the main culprits here, not the intention to force himself on the women. He generally probably doesn’t remember doing this, but that doesn’t mean it is not true. I understand it is hard to admit fault to things when you black out, would any of us admit to a crime we had no recollection of?
So in the end I think this is most likely the conclusion to this story. Flair has apologized for everything he can recall doing, or can easily assume do to repeated behaviors (helicopter-ing). He likely will never admit to forcing himself on the woman, as he doesn’t have the ability to recall it, and it is the smoking gun of this crime. And because of the polarizing nature and limbo of the situation he probably won’t get another booking on air for the rest of his life.
Selfishly I really wanted to see the Four Horseman reunion on AEW television; because it’s a miracle all 4 are still alive, and that faction is before my time so I’ve never seen them in the ring together. So selfishly I wish this episode ended the season rather than led it so I could get that visual. It’s probably for the best that he never appeared on AEW television though, and likely never will, as this water is too difficult to tread with the as close to 0 tolerance for this sort of stuff the company has displayed since inception.
I hope Ric does what he can to atone for his past, and still gets to be around the business he’s given his life to in some form, given if it is just as a guest backstage for none of us to see. I think those actions will be required of him to see his daughter or his future son in law perform in person.
Had no idea about MLB; good call on that
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I don’t mind the 4th seat being an active wrestler, but I think it should rotate
Starks has certainly been the best at it from what I’ve seen on Dark. I loved Chuck Taylor and Chris Hero in PWG, so I’d love to see Chuck get a chance. I believe Ogogo has also done a bit, and Paul Wight has done Elevation every week.
Starks is the most natural fit, I just worry about too much Team Taz on commentary week in and week out if 50% of the booth is one faction.
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I totally get what you’re saying, but Tuesday head to head with NXT makes a lot of sense now that you point that out.
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I think 10pm any other night of the week might even work better
Something that sets them up to follow NBA/NHL games during their seasons. Friday night is tough in general, but that time slot is really hard.
Having said that I think anything above 500K is a big success in that spot, so the fact they fell under 650K for the first time is a big success for the launch. However, continuing to drop after having 2 title matches on the card isn’t encouraging.
I’d consider putting it head to head with Smackdown or Raw, even though you’d have to eat a lot of crow from the "wrestling war" dialogue. I don’t think they will be allowed to compete against NBA/NHL and against TNT come 2022, so the nights they can put the show are very limited
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The anti AEW tweets and bots on Twitter right now really outdid themselves finding a new low on this news
I know the wrestling war is only increasing with AEW’s success, so it’s not likely to stop anytime soon. But man, does it suck to see people, most likely bots, to find a way to spin this to be gross.
Luckily that’s not the case on CSS. Outside one stupid comment, everyone realizes this is a universal great thing, despite what "team" you root for.
It certainly does
It sounds very very similar to the Bill Cosby accusations; so this may have been a trend in the entertainment industry in the late 80’s- early 90’s across the board.
The issue of this is it requires someone to name names, and even when 25+ people name a name in the case of Cosby, it boils down to "he said she said" which sadly typically results in the party with more money winning. Due to these factors I’m not sure we are ever getting the names of the scumbags that did this, whether it’s actors, directors, pro wrestlers, etc.
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RVD was the one who talked about using H-Bombs on women
I interpreted his comments as admitting to how gross and abusive the locker room was in those days. They not only took drugs, but pushed these drugs on others and strangers. RVD made it sound like he saw it, but didn’t partake in these acts directly. He also didn’t name any names or incriminate anyone; so while very disturbing, there’s no one to directly point the finger at; which is why I think there’s a handful of fans pointing the finger at RVD.
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I think a lot of it comes down to timing and circumstance
Sammy’s comments I believe were before he was signed to AEW, and resurfaced once he and/or Sasha had a prominent moment. Due to this AEW is a bit more "protected" and can claim he was young and they will handle it internally to ensure it doesn’t happen again. It also in that case would boil down to "Dumb guy says something gross and inexcusable," not "AEW Employee says gross statement after being in a spotlight position." It’s also hypothetical instead of condoning real life effects.
Dreamer conducted this interview while signed, and therefore representing Impact Wrestling. Despite this and representing a company as the only Impact talent interviewed on this episode, Dreamer proceeded to make problematic comments regarding sexual assault, not only being tone deaf regarding it, but acknowledging that it happened and downplaying it. It is much more damaging to Impact because of his current role in the company when Dreamer decided to publicly broadcast this on an internationally televised program very popular within your profession.
So due to this I think the punishment will be and should be much harsher than Sammy’s. Right or wrong, Sammy and AEW had some built in excuses they could lean into; where Dreamer doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
I think it’s largely because it was Brock’s "rookie year." He exposed himself to a co-worker, and got in a fight with someone on the plane. Something two prominent "locker room leaders" in their 50s also did on that very plane ride.
It’s not excusing his actions, but he was a young guy trying to make his mark on the industry at that time, acting like the people everyone in the locker room admired. It’s more of an indictment on the locker room culture and locker room leaders to me then it is on the young guy who just got there.