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Nah, I’m kidding.
It’ll be an adjustment, but I imagine it’ll all be fine.
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Fultz is also injured.
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Magic brought back E'Twaun Moore!
Free agent guard E’Twaun Moore has agreed to a one-year, $2.6M deal with the Orlando Magic, his agent Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports tells ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 8, 2021
According to the FO, Isaac is not coming off 2 leg injuries...since he was fully healed & cleared for play before the bubble injury.
In fact, they expressly stated that his first knee injury had nothing to do with his ACL.
Unless they were just BSing to cover their butts for playing Isaac in the bubble when they shouldn’t have?
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Isaac now casting doubt on whether he'll be back on opening night.
"We’ll see. That’s all I can say about that is: we’ll see," Isaac said about being ready for the season opener, which is 45 days away. "I’m on the court. I’m weaning out of the brace. I’m jumping. I’m finishing around the basket and such. I’m easing my way. … I’m getting there."
I’d still be surprised if he isn’t ready to go on opening night given how long ago his injury was — approx. 15 months before opening tipoff. A minutes restriction wouldn’t be a shock, but if he’s not able to go then it means he may have suffered an undisclosed setback at some point.
It’s also a nice reminder to those that seem certain that Fultz will be good to go, or very near it, come early-oct. It’s true that there are different levels of ACL tear, so maybe his wasn’t as severe as Isaacs…but still, the default expectation can’t be that he will be on the floor on opening night or anytime super close to it.
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Nope, I hadn't.
I figured they would have just used the height measurement from last year on the Magic roster, since usually those figures don’t get updated for the new season until training camp, and everyone kept speculating about his height throughout the summer. I assumed if it had been confirmed it would no longer be a thing being talked about.
And usually if I say something like "it was confirmed by (whoever)" I try to put a link to that rather than assuming any/all readers of my comment will be able to go hunt down the specific place I found it.
Glad to hear he added some height, though! Most scouting reports before the draft had him 6’4" with a 6’7" wingspan (link) so if that +3 stayed similar then he may only be 10-15 lb away from legit "Wing" size.
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Link to that confirmation?
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Defensive Rebounding is gonna be "a thing" this coming season.
After Bamba & Carter, both of which had a lower DRB% than Vucevic did last season, the next best DRB% of the guys expected to play heavy minutes is…RJ Hampton. Then…Cole Anthony. Then Okeke, and Ross.
Isaac’s career DRB% would have put him behind Hampton but ahead of Cole.
Suggs seems like a strong rebounder for his size, so that’ll be another strong-rebounding Guard on the roster. Maybe if the Magic have enough of those, it’ll make up for a Forward rotation that struggles to end defensive possessions?
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Hopefully Lopez can continue educating Carter & Bamba more about defensive positioning & not fouling.
An interesting thing about Lopez’s career stats: His first 4 years in the league with PHX, his per36 fouls were 5.7, 4.3, 5.2, and 5.1. Then, at age 24, he moved to NOH and his fouls per36 dropped dramatically down to 2.8, and over his next 7 seasons (‘prime’ years) his avg was 2.7 fouls per36.
Really, if there’s one area that Bamba really needs to reign in to be able to stay on the floor, it’s his high foul rate. Carter’s defense, built around toughness & positioning rather than rim protection, also lines up with Lopez to an extent as well.
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Most of the Magic's roster is already having their tires kicked.
4 Guards, 3 Fowards, and 2 Centers…that’s a tractor trailer’s worth of tires.
At this point, for any new young player any OPPer wants to "kick the tires" on, at least one of the existing young guys probably needs to be shown the door.
The original rumor implied that the reason for moving Brooks (and Kyle Anderson) was largely because they have too many guys under contract.
So if the rumor’s true, I’d imagine the point of the move would be to send out more players than they bring back.
This creates a problem for the Magic, who also already have too many young guys that need minutes.
And once you bring in a 3rd team…whoever that team is, they’d probably want Brooks/Anderson over what the Magic would be including in that deal anyways.
Maybe you get a 3rd team who has a bad contract, and the Magic absorb it? But it’s still pretty tough to find a group that works.
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Yeah, there was a rumor...but no one ever confirmed it.
The rumor was a $70M+ deal over 4 years, which would work out to about $18-19 million per year.
But from the Magic’s perspective, you only make that deal if you think he’s on the cusp of having a breakout season. Right now, looking at the market for big-men, if he had been a RFA this off-season he likely doesn’t get an offer nearly that big. Plus signing that deal basically solidifies giving up on Bamba, which would then likely hurt his (already low) trade value.
Jarrett Allen signed a 5YR, $100M contract ($20M per year); and he’s younger, already better, and without the injury issues of either Carter or Bamba. Robert Williams on the Celtics signed a $54M 4yr deal ($13.5M per year). Richaun Holmes signed a similar $55M, 4YR deal. Khem Birch signed a $20M 3yr deal. Nerlens Noel got 3YR, $32M. Lauri Markkanan is still awkwardly a RFA, seemingly not getting an offer that he liked. A couple Star Bigs got big money, but beyond that it’s a bunch of VetMin and short-term mid-single-digit deals. Big guys who aren’t superstars simply don’t command much money.
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To give some numbers to this:
Currently, the Magic only have ~$68M on the books for the 2022-23 season, for eight players: Fultz, Suggs, Anthony, Hampton, Ross, Okeke, Isaac, & Wagner.
This does not include any extension costs for Carter or Bamba. So if either/both of them sign extensions, we would have to add that new contract amount to the total. That said, if they don’t sign extensions, they become Restricted FAs next off-season, meaning the Magic could push off any decision on either/both of them until then with little repercussions. They both would technically have $20M cap-holds on the books in the off-season, but those are easily gotten around.
So, practically, the Magic are looking at going into next off-season with 7 young players under contract, 1 veteran on a very movable deal, 2 restricted FA young guys, and ~$50M in usable cap space.
There really is a ton of flexibility & possibility with the Magic’s roster & cap sheet next off-season. Financially they could easily fit a Max-max level player onto the books, and have the assets to make an offer better than anyone other than OKC. The easy-move is to make this year a pure evaluation year with the intention of using Ross, 1-3 of the young players, Picks, and cap space to really amp up the roster’s talent level.