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2nd language, but I do know better. Thx for seeing it…
it's all relative
I tell you what I think is mean:
1. To say that it was pretty much all luck… ("poor RSL finishing, luck in our goals…) and with that, diminishing the effort of every single player in the field, after achieving, despite missing our best two attacking player, the CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP, in what was a CLEAR dominating, comprehensive performance. I am just calling out one guy with an agenda, he is diminishing the effort and success of an entire group of players. So who is mean? That’s like calling "mean" somebody for calling out Hannity for saying COVID was a hoax…. this is beyond opinion and agendas, this is factual; we were not lucky, we played a hell of a game…… what not credit that?
2. Or maybe in your parallel world he should have credit the players and believe that they accomplished all this "despite having such a terrible coaching staff," thus taking credit away, again….
get real, "dude." You guys are unbelievable.
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The question isn't Asprilla
The question is Blanco, if he is going to look like a mummy again. Practice will dictate a lot, but Loria and Moreno were just unreal. The problem is domination was too much here. RSL got nothing. In fact I would argue (respectfully) this article isn’t strong enough in painting the reality of the game. Sure, They had a couple of header chances from mistakes, but this was a one team game. So back to your question: that has to be a tough position for Savarese. This team worked just perfectly….. I bet practice will dictate a lot.
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Keys of the game
This was total domination. An absolute amazing performance… In context, I use my keys to win from earlier this week:
1. Score first: I know it sounds cliche, but hear me out. We have NO DEPTH on the attack after losing our best two attacking players. So, it will be really nice if at min 80 we are winning, not losing or tied……..
It was nice to get this goal. But I was WRONG about this. The Timbers were so superior… so we actually had depth. I don’t think there would have been a single scenario in which the Timbers would have lost this game. Why? We had plenty of depth. Why? LORIA
2. Moreno: Moreno will be key for counters (typically Asprilla job) and creating from the wing (Blanco)…..
Again, I was wrong. Moreno was a key piece, but not in counters. He was a key holding the ball, and doing 1000 things, but counter, not so much
3. Savarese: Sounds cliche again, but as Sam V said, Savarese got everything right on second half against Colorado. He needs to do the same here, but because we have no depth, he needs to do it from the get go…..
I was certainly right about this one. Savarese entirely out couched the other dude. Took #11 (IMO their best player by far) out of the game and made Timbers’s penetration so freaking effective, every time….
4. Paredes and the full backs: Yes, again…..
Yes, anybody who at this point doesn’t see that Paredes (and with that Savarese tactical approach to midfield) isn’t key to Timbers’ success may as well buy reruns and watch more carefully. This isn’t opinion any more. This is factual.
5. No defensive mistakes: ….. WRONG again. Two defensive mistakes that could have ended in goals. Individual mistakes that do NOT make us "lucky" or take credit away from the tactical and team approach to the game. RSL could have scored at least one goal, but my take is they could have scored 2. We were so superior we would have press de accelerator (we certainly released it at some point) and win either game.
If the MLS "experts" don’t have us as favorites they are just idiots. It’s not that I want to be favorite, but I saw comments about that being a bad thing… Get used to it, we will be favorites.
Felipe Mora had one of the best games in his career as a Timber.
Loria was MOM. Paredes was second. I can’t say there is a single Timber other than Valeri who didn’t have a good game.
Savarese proved wrong a lot of people one more time; their choice to stay on denial; and he chose class giving Valeri an opportunity to shine at home. Hopefully there will be another one next week.
"we were lucky"
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Dude, are you serious?????
Did you actually watch the game???? I don’t think you did, either that, or you were in a parallel world. Sure, they had 2-3 moments, but this was total domination for the Timbers. Easily one of their best games. To make on single comment and make it all about "luck." Sorry, this is too much
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Paredes or Loria
They were both plain monsters
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lower side back, glues max and ham... all the same to me, one string
he looked like a mom with the amount of tape…
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My keys to the game, m ideal starting 11 and more BS...
Once again Savarese and his players are put to a difficult challenge. It couldn’t be easy…. I think Blanco is out, I hope he is. 1) We played better once he was out the other day Vs him being 70%, 2) We’ve beaten RSL without him, 3) Blanco isn’t everything, this has been discussed extensively… 4) I want closer to 100% Blanco in the final if we make it.
If he can make minutes, save him for if we are losing…..
1. Score first: I know it sounds cliche, but hear me out. We have NO DEPTH on the attack after losing our best two attacking players. So, it will be really nice if at min 80 we are winning, not losing or tied.
2. Moreno: Moreno will be key for counters (typically Asprilla job) and creating from the wing (Blanco).
3. Savarese: Sounds cliche again, but as Sam V said, Savarese got everything right on second half against Colorado. He needs to do the same here, but because we have no depth, he needs to do it from the get go.
Will he play Valeri or Loria? Will he change the formation? Who will be Clark’s target in the absence of Asprilla? Will he play both Mora and Niezgoda together? I think with the amount of time he has to do practice, it is indeed practice what will shape his mind.
4. Paredes and the full backs: Yes, again…..
5. No defensive mistakes: and this will means a tight game. We won’t be attacking like crazy as we would have with a deeper bench.
Valeri or not: If Valeri does well in practice, I am good with him starting. We will need creativity, but only if he does well in all other aspects…. with this said, I think would be the guy to bring if we are losing or tied at min 65-70.
My ideal starting 11 and formation:
Van R Mabiala Zuparic Bravo
D Chara Paredes
Niezgoda Yimmi Moreno
1. I considered a 4-3-3, but doubt Savarese will change formation and mess up with that the amazing chemistry and flow of Paredes-Chara
2. Niezgoda play as winger once or twice. Savarese should play him if he wants to have more attack power. However, I think he will go with Loria because Niezgoda does not defend well.
A3. If he goes Loria, I prefer Niezgoda over Mora.
Prediction: Moreno will establish himself in this game and score twice.
I phone…. I meant savarese has benched….
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Said right after the card that if the opposing player was real salt lake, valeri makes sense because the transition isn’t so fast and we require a bit less defending, however, something a lot of people tend to forget, is that it is not just about what seems to make sense tactically…. What goes on at practice will dictate a lot. Valeri performance at practice will dictate. In the past, sacar ese hat benched ridge well, valeri… when they had more value, he will not think it twice, he will play whoever is making more sense, as he sees it not just on paper (as we all do) but at practice.
I reply to you on this matter
I’m another topic. Some of us believe the narrative on blanco is simplistic. He has been beyond amazing, but I don’t think he is everything….
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Disagree. We’ll see
The tall dude
That talks a lot, he looks Sicilian, he is imo the best by far
Good for you, and I agree in that in this variable I much rather see women soccer, but there are other 1000 variables why I prefer watching men soccer…. There is a beer style for all of us. Cheers
I am not sure if it should have been a red or a yellow, but this comment makes total sense to me
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I agree with this except
I would switch mora and niezgoda.
This would be my line up against Kansas, where we will need more defending (and with this in mind I wonder if Liria is a better option as a winger than both niezgoda or Mora) but against RSL, where we will likely dictate pace, I would instead use valeri as a true 10 and sit either niezgoda or mora, in a 4-3-3 with valeri a bit ahead of Chara and paredes.
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Subs and decent depth
You just wrote in another topic we do not have depth but in certain positions….. game was zero zero. Precisely, at altitude it did make sense to wait and use your best players until there is was clear they were tired. We have a good bench, both other than Moreno, none of them are as good as their starter, in some instances, that difference is significant, and that difference many times affects tactics and flow. The only questionable substitution was taking Niezgoda so early. I will assume he showed signed of exhaustion, or simply, sacar ese thought Mora would offer something different….
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Here, my keys before the game
1. Passing : Timbers need to hit 78 or higher: 79%, checked.
2. Paredes: Yes, been saying this for over a month now…. Checked, he was a monster
3. Fullbacks: Against MN, when full backs engaged in the attack is when we score… Checked. They both did an amazing job
4. Speaking of set pieces…. defending set pieces could be key, unless Timbers avoid them: Checked, better job impossible, aside that chance at beginning of game that Colorado player missed.
5. Individual player: Asprilla: Cheked. This was a bit on the context I did not think Blanco would be key. Tired of that narrative Blanco is everything. Absolutely BS the red card.
6. Savarese: If he does what he did against MN, and that is completely outreach opposition, we will be in a good place: Cheked. Better organized midfield impossible. We win despite Savarese?? BS. We won despite the ref.
7. Bench: I think we do have a better bench. They have to come ready to play: Checked. Both Mora snd Moreno came out ready to play
Overall, Aside their first clear chance, we had the best chances. We deserved the win.
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There is also Bonilla
I agree with this, reason why I mentioned bench. I think we have a good bench, better than them.
I think the mentality is always to score first, so I think #1 makes more sense, except I doubt they will park a bus at min 55 if that happens.
But game plans I think are more about tactics and less about intention. There is certainly an initial attitude regarding how defensively or offensively a team wants to play, but the biggest focus is on individual and collective movement, overlaps, relays, who does this and who does that, who mark who, set pieces… and specially, formation when defending, when attacking, and when in transition (this aspect is what IMO Savarese does best.)
I think the Timbers will do the exact same they did against MN. Meaning, they will want to score first and that will be the intention, but; 1) They will not throw the bus forward irresponsible (notice neither full back went up the entire first half against MN), 2) the dynamics of the match will dictate such attitude (for example, you get score first… or you score 2 goals).
Bonilla: He is no Van Rankin and definitely no Bravo because he is not as complete, but he is FASTER than both and much younger than Van Rankin. So if winning, when focus is on defense, while he doesn’t have the positioning and soccer IQ Van Rankin has, he evens the equation with other attributes.
Tuiloma: Tuiloma is a beast in the air. If Colorado is that good in set pieces, I wonder if Gio will use him as starter.
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Blanco would not be able to have the space he has without
whoever took the ball away from MN, once was Paredes
movement of other attacking players……
list goes on, not to count, echoing you two, the amazing job most players have done.
Savarese has tried to correct this narratives in his interview, but even the Timbers press are treating it this way. Modern journalism is sadly a lot of copy and paste, and the casual soccer fan only sees the very end of a play.
Blanco’s contribution is enormous, and I hope he keeps it up, but the narrative diminishes everyone else.
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